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Supply and demand!! Bollocks!! (73)

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6 Jan 10, 3:41 PM
McDelphian
2 yrs
The rules hadn't changed when I was in education but if you say so..

Danbuc wrote:
McDelphian wrote:
Can I start a sentence with and?

Ok, I just googled that phrase (both as a literal string and as a string of words) top link that comes back:

http://editingpublishing.suite101.com/article.cf...

And I quote

The good news is that the rules are changing and it is now considered acceptable to start a sentence with a conjunction.

ETA: And another link that comes close to the top of the results contains this quote

That it is a solecism to begin a sentence with and is a faintly lingering superstition. The OED gives examples ranging from the 10th to the 19th c.; the Bible is full of them.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/can-you-start-se...

6 Jan 10, 4:05 PM
AstronautMikeDexter
UK(E), 2 yrs
McDelphian wrote:
The rules hadn't changed when I was in education but if you say so..

I do say so and in this, rare, instance I'm right.

There was indeed a brief period from the late 19th to the mid 20thC where some people tried to maintain it wasn't grammatically correct to start a sentence with a conjunction. But this runs contrary to all prior evidence (King James translation of the Bible, Shakespeare, the previous 900 years of written English). And contrary to what everyone does in spoken English and what authors have done all through the 20thC. Even the second quote, from Ernest Gowers, in my last reply dates from around the 50s.

School teachers are mostly right to enforce a rule preventing children from beginning sentences with a conjunction because if you don't every sentence ends up starting with and. Which quickly becomes unreadable. But that is a matter of good style and not one of grammar. If you were told that it's grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with and then your teacher was, quite simply, wrong.

--- Ha!

6 Jan 10, 4:27 PM
CookieMonster
UK, 6 yrs
And now for something completely diferent....

Veritatis simplex oratio est. Seneca, Roman Statesman Ca. 65 A.D. The language of truth is simple.

6 Jan 10, 4:32 PM
Wiley_Kit
UK(PE), 6 yrs
Danbuc wrote:
McDelphian wrote:
The rules hadn't changed when I was in education but if you say so..

I do say so and in this, rare, instance I'm right.

There was indeed a brief period from the late 19th to the mid 20thC where some people tried to maintain it wasn't grammatically correct to start a sentence with a conjunction. But this runs contrary to all prior evidence (King James translation of the Bible, Shakespeare, the previous 900 years of written English). And contrary to what everyone does in spoken English and what authors have done all through the 20thC. Even the second quote, from Ernest Gowers, in my last reply dates from around the 50s.

School teachers are mostly right to enforce a rule preventing children from beginning sentences with a conjunction because if you don't every sentence ends up starting with and. Which quickly becomes unreadable. But that is a matter of good style and not one of grammar. If you were told that it's grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with and then your teacher was, quite simply, wrong.

I went to school in Malta and in London, both sets of English teachers told me the same thing about starting a sentence with 'And' is wrong.

Blah, school was a lie!!! What else where they teaching us that was incorrect?

I want my youth back!

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6 Jan 10, 4:50 PM
Mistress_Avralivia
UK(RG), 4 yrs
£
I am so bored of grammar nazi's.

If it is appalling then I can understand it, but really she did not make that big a mistake.

Plus the topic has completely derailed (as others have recently) and no-one is responding to the OP.

Fucking ridiculous.

In answer to the OP.

Some people book a session based on looks, some on what services you offer, and some on the basis of experience. Most use a combination of the above I should have thought.

There is also the matter of distance to travel, and cost.

"You're going to massage me, but first I'm going to bind you"

Edited 6 Jan 10, 4:52 PM by Mistress_Avralivia

6 Jan 10, 5:00 PM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 6 yrs
£
McDelphian wrote:
Can I start a sentence with and? google says no.

Is google your Mistress?

www.mistresssusannah.co.uk www.professionaldomination.co.uk

6 Jan 10, 5:11 PM
McDelphian
2 yrs
Nah, yer Mam is.

Mistress_Susannah wrote:
McDelphian wrote:
Can I start a sentence with and? google says no.

Is google your Mistress?

6 Jan 10, 5:38 PM
subtler
3 yrs
Mistress_Sarah_Kane wrote:
"younger more attractive pro dommes"

Are younger pro dommes necessarily more attractive? And in what ways are they more attractive?

I sometimes think youth works a bit like make-up, concealing as much as it shows. But then I probably would say that, wouldn't I?

Try. Just a little bit harder.
Submissions

6 Jan 10, 5:44 PM
fitzcaraldo
UK(BA), 5 yrs

Danbuc wrote:
McDelphian wrote:
You started a sentence with And...

I wish dearly that people would stop regurgitating Strunk & White as though they know what they are talking about. Starting sentences with and is a perfectly correct grammatical construct in English; And it's been commonly used in written English since the emergence of Middle English (see also splitting infinitives and ending sentences with prepositions).

I doubt any contemporary style guides prohibit starting sentences with and and trying to enforce a style guide's choices as actual rules of grammar is plain stupid.

Funny that, I still feel guilty doing it in case anyone notices ! Similarly, I still sometimes like to use a comma prefixing / separating 'and' in a sentence if I think the context warrants it !!

Escaped from the parallel universe

7 Jan 10, 7:21 PM
latte_addict
2 yrs
Mistress_Sarah_Kane wrote:

A good Mistress has experince its should not matter how she looks, experience in this game is everything....

I think you may have a point. Some equate a yoof-ful, fresh-faced Pro-Domme with a lack of skill.

Generally, skill takes mileage to develop. The underlying technique may take only minutes to comprehend, but it's not the same thing. Without practice, it'll never become a skill.

Ergo, if a customer equates safety with skill, then PDs with low-mileage looks can be at a disadvantage.

That said, though skill and safety are the overriding priority, looks still matter to some.

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