Help wanted (extreme porn) (40)

I think that the amount of time and money spent on it will have been tiny.

The thing is that although we are all following it eagerly for most people (including most police and prosecutors) this law will have made no impact whatsoever - most won't even have heard of it.

I don't know the full back story here - and certainly there are hints that there is more to it - but the chances are that an ordinary "bobby on the beat" has come across the video, had some vague idea that it might be illegal and looked up the law, then pointed it out to a prosecutor, who has also never heard of it, has looked at the wording and agreed that it appears to make it illegal without much further thought (and possibly without looking at the video itself, just accepting the police description of it) and charged it in about 10 minutes. Then no one thinks any more about it till it lands on their desk the day before trial.

The justice system is largely a sausage factory, and most people and lawyers wouldn't have realised this was a possibly ground breaking case, so it wouldn't have taken up much attention, time and money.

Is that a waste of public money? Good question, and as ever one of balance. In this particular case clearly money has been wasted, but if the attention needed to spot that early were put in to every case then most of that would be wasted. Like most public services the justice system cannot actually perform to Rolls Royce standards on Ford Escort prices, so has to work out where best to cut corners to try and give best value. Inevitably this type of case will slip through occasionally, but overall it is cheaper this way.

(Caveat: I really don't know anything about what has happened in this particular case, and there may be more to it than the above, which is more about the everyday reality of how the justice system works under pressure.)

Sign the Consenting Adult Action Network's statement

And will video highlights be uploaded?

Hmmmm. CJIA says, "...a person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive),

and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that any such person or animal was real."

Can the good law enforcement people of North Wales not distinguish a cartoon tiger from a real one??

The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation - Pierre Trudeau
A denizen of a right little, tight little island.

You'd have thought the plod in North Wales would have plenty of experience in this sort of thing too, if you know what I mean

The Hunger Site

Hopefully not "Death by Tiger"...

S.x.

Errmm, why ? Is rape by tigers (cartoon or otherwise) a particular problem in North Wales ?

S.x.

I think, and I'm reiterating what was said when this legislation came into force, that this represents a huge extension of the criminal law.

The criminal law generally prohibits (in very simple terms) doing bad things to other people, or doing things that may lead to bad things being done to other people. Now we are criminalising depicting bad things being done to other people (and in some cases depicting "not bad" things (in respect of the acts being depicted NOT being criminal offences)). Bearing in mind that most Hollywood movies involve multiple murders, myriad assaults, (very) dangerous driving, and criminal damage on a large scale where will the prohibitions end ? We are getting closer to Orwell's "ThoughtCrime".

S.x.

Edited for missing r's

Edited 29 Jan 10, 8:57 PM by Sorceror

And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!

And apologies to the poster above but whoever, POLICE and CPS, authorised prosecution IF the tiger was obviously fake - and if it turned to the camera and said "That was grrreeeatttt !" I don't expect it would have been very realistic - really needs to get their act in order.

S.x.