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Google Scholar and BDSM (20)

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21 Nov 09, 1:15 AM
Creidhne
UK(CV), 4 yrs

I dont mind it to be honest. I still use the internet but only to read online journals. And I have to actually goto the library and do my work.
21 Nov 09, 1:37 AM
Angelika_Gabriel
UK(M), 2 yrs

Celldweller wrote:
I dont mind it to be honest. I still use the internet but only to read online journals. And I have to actually goto the library and do my work.

That still isn't good, In my degree there a large amount of internet based research as it's focusing on new technology and the best and quickest way to find out about it is online, BUT

we have been told that if our only research methods are online then we are likely to do very badly as we need a balanced and wide ranging amount of research.

Which uni are you at? Because it worries me too

The world is too much with us, Could we not now just elope? Strange way to hold us closer, Strange way to give us hope, Strange way

21 Nov 09, 2:09 AM
jules9
UK(CH), 3 yrs

Angelika_Gabriel wrote:
Celldweller wrote:
I dont mind it to be honest. I still use the internet but only to read online journals. And I have to actually goto the library and do my work.

That still isn't good, In my degree there a large amount of internet based research as it's focusing on new technology and the best and quickest way to find out about it is online, BUT

we have been told that if our only research methods are online then we are likely to do very badly as we need a balanced and wide ranging amount of research.

Which uni are you at? Because it worries me too

The OP did answer the question, but I suggested in memo it may be a little too revealing in terms of personal information, to be placed on the boards.

Hopefully his academics will remove their heads from their arses and start to educate properly...

21 Nov 09, 7:31 AM
sardax
UK, 6 yrs

I do think there's a lot of academic sniffiness talked about online information from scholars who believe books must always correct because it's all been set in print and unchangeable. However being unchangeable does not mean it's correct. I know from having worked at publishers how silly mistakes occur and how they get set in print without checking in exactly a similar way to entering information online.And then they throw up their hands and say -"oh well, it's in print now- nothing we can do about it" Doesn't online publishing score higher over that attitude? It's all subject to human error whatever way it's published. Of course checking from all sources is best though if your local library has closed down or worse transferred everything online, you might not have any other option.

(For a classic example of how mistakes keep getting transferred from one book to the next see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dürer%27s_Rhinoceros

Of course the validity of that article could be suspect itself!)

Fascinating ramifications to all this.

21 Nov 09, 7:36 AM
tanken
UK(NR), 2 yrs

sardax wrote:
I do think there's a lot of academic sniffiness talked about online information from scholars who believe books must always correct because it's all been set in print and unchangeable. However being unchangeable does not mean it's correct. I know from having worked at publishers how silly mistakes occur and how they get set in print without checking in exactly a similar way to entering information online.And then they throw up their hands and say -"oh well, it's in print now- nothing we can do about it" Doesn't online publishing score higher over that attitude? It's all subject to human error whatever way it's published. Of course checking from all sources is best though if your local library has closed down or worse transferred everything online, you might not have any other option.

(For a classic example of how mistakes keep getting transferred from one book to the next see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dürer%27s_Rhinoceros

Of course the validity of that article could be suspect itself!)

Fascinating ramifications to all this.

I agree. Even established sources need checking from time to time and that doesn't even take into account that scientific opinion changes over time anyway.

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21 Nov 09, 10:24 AM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs


Any university that doesn't teach the importance of relevance and understanding of research techniques isn't worth the money you are paying for it.

In my industry, the rate of change is too high to rely on printed media. The internet is the only way to get accurate and up to date information. It would be dangerous to rely on book learning in a lot of cases as the information is no longer correct.

The key is to understand what you are reading, the currency of the information, the relevance and the accuracy.

I don't know what's right and what's real any more

21 Nov 09, 10:29 AM
Angelika_Gabriel
UK(M), 2 yrs

Sirebel wrote:
Any university that doesn't teach the importance of relevance and understanding of research techniques isn't worth the money you are paying for it.

In my industry, the rate of change is too high to rely on printed media. The internet is the only way to get accurate and up to date information. It would be dangerous to rely on book learning in a lot of cases as the information is no longer correct.

The key is to understand what you are reading, the currency of the information, the relevance and the accuracy.

It's posts like this that make me want a facebook style 'like' button, why couldn't I have said what I meant as clearly as that :) thanks

The world is too much with us, Could we not now just elope? Strange way to hold us closer, Strange way to give us hope, Strange way

21 Nov 09, 11:04 AM
Belasarius
UK(M), 8 yrs



jules9 wrote:
Dreaming2 wrote:
We were encouraged to use google scholar and even google books. Wikipedia, however, is out of bounds!

Same here.

I'd love to know why any uni would not encourage the use of a search engine that provides links to peer reviewed papers, reviews, etc...

Yes it may bring up links to more obscure journals with lower impact factors, but surely the point in completing literature reviews is that during the process you learn to cut the chaff from the wheat so to speak.

For analness sake (and with apologies - I suspect I shall be feeling much more tolerant when my girl gets back in a few days time) you separate wheat from chaff.

This is actually quite important as chaff and wheat is what is left on the threshing floor after the living daylights have been beaten out of the harvested stalks and ears.

The chaff is the inedible husk, etc.

Separating the two is therefore a task that demands patience and detail and which can make a huge difference to the quality of the finished flour. So if using the expression you are asking your reader to infer that you have gone over everything available, analysed it thoroughly, graded it for quality and retained only that which is perfect.

Patience is bitter - but its fruit is sweet.
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Edited 21 Nov 09, 11:18 AM by Belasarius

21 Nov 09, 11:15 AM
Belasarius
UK(M), 8 yrs



Sirebel wrote:
Any university that doesn't teach the importance of relevance and understanding of research techniques isn't worth the money you are paying for it.

In my industry, the rate of change is too high to rely on printed media. The internet is the only way to get accurate and up to date information. It would be dangerous to rely on book learning in a lot of cases as the information is no longer correct.

The key is to understand what you are reading, the currency of the information, the relevance and the accuracy.

There is a powerpoint presentation lying around on various websites called "shift happens" which I thoroughly recommend.

It is written by technocrats and vocationalists but, imho, completely undermines the idea that vocational qualiications taught in an academic setting are of any value whatsoever.

Take a look at it. It makes its argument with data not opinion and the premise is this: society and technology is changing so fast that anyone spending years learning about it is out of date before they apply their skills.

Only constant training as part of a career can supply these practical skills.

Pure academic degrees, on the other hand, teach people to think (well, some of them do). That is a skill the individual and society can use.

Patience is bitter - but its fruit is sweet.
Follow me on twitter: @belasarius99

3 Dec 09, 11:44 PM
fetish_king
4 yrs
ya me too, at uni and G.S is not good enough for essays shit like.
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