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Back to the Future with Google Chrome OS (17)

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20 Nov 09, 4:20 PM
Der_Morgenstern
UK(LA), 7 yrs
Reading various reports and views about the Google OS it looks very much as if Google intend to be extremely controlling, much worse than Apple.

They will say what hardware you can use, they will say what apps you can use, but they will control all your data. I'm not giving over that much control to anyone, especially a company that makes most, if not all, of it's money from advertising.

I like choosing my own hardware, I like choosing my own software, I like being able to save data, as much of it as I want and I don't like being dependent on the internet for everything. Yes there are people who just want computers for the internet and for them to just work, fine, let them use google in the same way people loved AOL for the same reasons, but look what has happened to AOL as people realised they wanted more.

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20 Nov 09, 5:19 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

I think it's verging on the criminal that you can get to be the richest man in the world by selling an operating system which is susceptible to viruses. It's actually as damning a confutation of the inevitable benefits of capitalism as is the hot air hand drier (which almost no-on wold use given the choice, but sells well to intermediaries). With PC operating systems the consumer has little effective choice; there is a near monoploy. Not only that but the designers, as always in geek world, are designing for people like themselves and paying no attention to the needs of the market. They add more and more features instead of getting the basics right. A good discipline would be for them to have to deliver windows as a ROM, and if a fault was discovered, have the cost and humiliation of having to do a recall as Ford does if they sell a car with a dodgy gearbox. A ROM based PC would be subject to the Sale of Goods act; if the OS can be shown not to be of merchentable quality or not to meet the description applied to it or not to be fit for the purpose intended then the consumer has a remedy, and Microsoft can't simply say that updates are available online. I don't want updates, I want a simple stable working system. And I want to have no more involvement with it than I have with my car's gearbox or my fridge's motor. It just works, quietly in the background, serving me rather than expecting me to serve it. Why the hell does my computer sometimes tell me it needs to apply updates and when I switch it on it or try to power off it insists on doing it's own thing for tens of minutes? It's supposed to be my servant, not my master. And whoever thought oit a good idea to sell a device which takes up to a minute to get started after swicth-on? It reminds me of how TVs were in the 1950s (before I can actually remember) - you had to wait for the valves and the tube to warm up. I think the hard disc should eb used siply as a buffer used for performance reasons. Personal data should be on something portable like a memory stick and operating system not my responsibility at all. Preferably on a ROM or accessible via the web. I think I'd prefer the ROM then they can't change it without my permission.

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Edited 20 Nov 09, 5:20 PM by wonderer

20 Nov 09, 5:52 PM
MarcusStrapp
UK(CB), 7 yrs
In the last three years I've lost my wallet twice, 5 memory sticks, my house keys, a TV remote control, dropped and destroyed my DSLR camera and got through 3 iPhones. Gawd I must be daft and clumsy and for that reason I am not sure I favour carrying about all my worldly data any more than I would want to carry about all my money in my wallet. :-)

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20 Nov 09, 9:14 PM
boy050505
UK, 7 yrs
If you place your data in Google or Microsofts cloud where is it actually? Which court decides which government dept/police force/security services can access it?

http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/googl...

http://www.informationweek.com/cloud-computing/b...

edited to add links

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Edited 20 Nov 09, 9:19 PM by boy050505

20 Nov 09, 10:00 PM
redcat
9 yrs
wonderer wrote:
I think it's verging on the criminal that you can get to be the richest man in the world by selling an operating system which is susceptible to viruses. It's actually as damning a confutation of the inevitable benefits of capitalism as is the hot air hand drier (which almost no-on wold use given the choice, but sells well to intermediaries).

With PC operating systems the consumer has little effective choice; there is a near monoploy. Not only that but the designers, as always in geek world, are designing for people like themselves and paying no attention to the needs of the market. They add more and more features instead of getting the basics right.

A good discipline would be for them to have to deliver windows as a ROM, and if a fault was discovered, have the cost and humiliation of having to do a recall as Ford does if they sell a car with a dodgy gearbox. A ROM based PC would be subject to the Sale of Goods act; if the OS can be shown not to be of merchentable quality or not to meet the description applied to it or not to be fit for the purpose intended then the consumer has a remedy, and Microsoft can't simply say that updates are available online.

I don't want updates, I want a simple stable working system. And I want to have no more involvement with it than I have with my car's gearbox or my fridge's motor. It just works, quietly in the background, serving me rather than expecting me to serve it.

Why the hell does my computer sometimes tell me it needs to apply updates and when I switch it on it or try to power off it insists on doing it's own thing for tens of minutes? It's supposed to be my servant, not my master. And whoever thought oit a good idea to sell a device which takes up to a minute to get started after swicth-on? It reminds me of how TVs were in the 1950s (before I can actually remember) - you had to wait for the valves and the tube to warm up. I think the hard disc should eb used siply as a buffer used for performance reasons.

Personal data should be on something portable like a memory stick and operating system not my responsibility at all. Preferably on a ROM or accessible via the web. I think I'd prefer the ROM then they can't change it without my permission.

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20 Nov 09, 10:12 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

redcat wrote:

easy tiger.....breathe!!!! :-)

Oooh thank you that girl - you made me laugh :-) which is healing in itself. And you added paragraphs.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

22 Nov 09, 6:24 PM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs


The IT industry will swing around and about depending on the cost of processing, memory, networking etc. The latest trend for server side computing is because the bandwidth costs have dropped dramatically and so Chrome OS is a viable option. Imagine trying to run world of warcraft on Chrome though. It's still going to require a significant amount of local computing capability.

Two things really worry my about Google:

  • Google are trying to restrict the specification for hardware that will run Chrome OS, repeating what Microsoft did to make Windows the only OS of choice. I read this week that Chrome will only run on machines with SSD hard disks for example.
  • Chrome browser installs a keylogger by default. Do you trust them?

However, I do agree that it is time that someone challenges Microsoft in a serious way and this looks like a viable attempt.

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