Protesters Beware...Do not Riot (12)

The words death, penalty, riot, and war do not occur anywhere within it. The Death Penalty is abolished under the European Convention of Human Rights which has nothing to do with the EU. The EU make the abolition of the death penalty a condition of entry, which is one of the sticking points with Turkey.

I would hope you just misread something you saw and weren't taken in and shown to be a gullible person who believes any old theory without doing any checking.

Science, the only religion that works even if you don't believe in it.
Women wanted, preferably with their own Rohypnol.

www.thedivinemissp.co.uk

Besides if martial law was excersised regardless of the treaty its easy enough to be shot without trial.

But

The EU is something I have been suspicious of for a long time now.

The fact that Tony Blair, who some believe is a war criminal, can be considered for presidency without election should set the alarms bells ringing.

Cameron has now admitted that we will not have a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty... if that doesn't split the Conservative Party then it will certainly boost support for UKIP and the BNP... and maybe the Greens.

If Labour - I foolishly supported them at one time - are returned to power then this country is finished effectively.

I shall be casting my vote (if I vote at all) for UKIP... not that I trust any politician anymore.

Edited 3 Nov 09, 12:00 PM by Ima_Kant

It isn't true so stop worrying.

Science, the only religion that works even if you don't believe in it.
Women wanted, preferably with their own Rohypnol.

blimey... you have read and understood the whole treaty (270 odd pages) and checked all the cross references etc?

sounds like an absolute nightmare if this article is anything to go by

Lisbon treaty for dummies

http://www.independent.ie/special-features/your-...

"The treaty amends the contents of several existing EU treaties in a document running to hundreds of pages of legal articles, protocols, declarations and annexes"

Edited 3 Nov 09, 12:34 PM by smallwitch

I don't need to read all of it, only the relevant sections, for example the General Provisions On The Union's External Actions section can be skipped. Also the beauty of having the text as a PDF makes it easily searchable.

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Women wanted, preferably with their own Rohypnol.

That bit above is from that weblink, read into it what you want. Personally I think the EU should be listening and doing what is best for the UK rather then the other way around. The UK shouldnt be following or allow to be pressured by EU, and they should be reminded everynow and again of that little tussel and where they came running when in need.

That's not even what that link says. What it's referring to is the police being allowed to shoot people in life threatening situations, which I'm pretty much sure they are already allowed to treaty or not. There is no death penalty in the sense of judgement and sentence unless you are imagining some sort of judge dread training for the police. .

- Chris

Submission is giving someone the ability to destroy You, but trusting them enough not to.

3. The provisions of Article 2 of the Charter correspond to those of the above Articles of the ECHR and its Protocol. They have the same meaning and the same scope, in accordance with Article 52(3) of the Charter. Therefore, the "negative" definitions appearing in the ECHR must be regarded as also forming part of the Charter:

(a) Article 2(2) of the ECHR:

"Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:

(a) in defence of any person from unlawful violence; (b) in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained; (c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection."

(b) Article 2 of Protocol No 6 to the ECHR:

"A State may make provision in its law for the death penalty in respect of acts committed in time of war or of imminent threat of war; such penalty shall be applied only in the instances laid down in the law and in accordance with its provisions…"