2 Nov 09, 2:32 PM
ToakReon
UK(RH), 12 yrs
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MissFelicity wrote:
Sirebel wrote:
have you arrested for trespass  . Even before the Human |
You can't be arrested for tresspass, it's a civil offence. You can only be sued for damaged. (I'm a reformed kayaker and current unban-explorer).
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Well - my own pictures have been classified using the new system (relatively painless) and one deleted because, whils I believe it's a highly used image about trolls on websites, I can't be sure it's actually "properly reproducible".
Toak FEMALE, BONDAGE-FRIENDLY MODEL SOUGHT. I am seeking to update my "How To" shibari bondage pictures (see my profile pics, the clothed blonde tied in red and black) with a model more "enthusiastic" about BDSM, and who is happy to be photographed nude. MEMO ME if this is you.
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2 Nov 09, 2:38 PM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs
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MissFelicity wrote:
Sirebel wrote:
have you arrested for trespass . Even before the Human |
You can't be arrested for tresspass, it's a civil offence. You can only be sued for damaged. (I'm a reformed kayaker and current unban-explorer).
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Damn, that will teach me to get carried away and not think about what I'm typing. I'm going to crawl back into my box now I don't know what's right and what's real any more
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2 Nov 09, 2:50 PM
Backdooruk
UK(BA), 12 yrs
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Sirebel wrote:
If you look, speak or listen to me then that is a personal and private experience. If you take a photograph of me and publish it then that isn't. |
The law on privacy quite reasonably considers that if someone else could equally have looked, spoken or listened to you as I could have then publishing a photograph or audio recording is the equivalent of them doing so and your privacy has not been breached. If however the circumstances we such that not just anybody could have seen you (like for instance in your home or in a club) then your privacy has been broken because the choice about who sees you etc has been taken away from you.
- Chris
Submission is giving someone the ability to destroy You, but trusting them enough not to.
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2 Nov 09, 2:52 PM
Backdooruk
UK(BA), 12 yrs
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FlashHarry wrote:
MissFelicity wrote:
Sirebel wrote:
have you arrested for trespass . Even before the Human |
You can't be arrested for tresspass, it's a civil offence. You can only be sued for damaged. (I'm a reformed kayaker and current unban-explorer).
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All the legal opinions you have ventured on this thread so far have been both half baked and largely incorrect. Tresspass can, in fact, be a criminal offence.
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Not in the example being talked about it can't (walking into someone's living room).
- Chris
Submission is giving someone the ability to destroy You, but trusting them enough not to.
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2 Nov 09, 2:53 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs
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FlashHarry wrote:
All the legal opinions you have ventured on this thread so far have been both half baked and largely incorrect. Tresspass can, in fact, be a criminal offence.
I would examine each of your broad brush, 'Some guy told me' statements and correct them in turn, however I will just enjoy the smug satisfaction of writing:
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Tresspass in itself is not a criminal offence. It is only criminal when committed in conjunction with other crimes (eg assault or criminal damage).
Your viewpoint and incorrect legal thinking is the reason why kayaking is dying on it's feet as a sport.
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2 Nov 09, 3:08 PM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs
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Backdooruk wrote:
Sirebel wrote:
If you look, speak or listen to me then that is a personal and private experience. If you take a photograph of me and publish it then that isn't. |
The law on privacy quite reasonably considers that if someone else could equally have looked, spoken or listened to you as I could have then publishing a photograph or audio recording is the equivalent of them doing so and your privacy has not been breached. If however the circumstances we such that not just anybody could have seen you (like for instance in your home or in a club) then your privacy has been broken because the choice about who sees you etc has been taken away from you.
- Chris
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I know, I was stating my opinion, not the law. The law is an arse (not ass) in respect to privacy, copyright and publication. It isn't keeping up with the changing world very well. I don't know what's right and what's real any more
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2 Nov 09, 3:10 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs
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Sirebel wrote:
I know, I was stating my opinion, not the law. The law is an arse (not ass) in respect to privacy, copyright and publication. It isn't keeping up with the changing world very well.
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What's changing?
People have owned cameras and published pictures of people for the last 150 years. Or is it because we can now be caught out more easily with the internet that there is a problem? |
2 Nov 09, 3:10 PM
Stallen
6 yrs |
FlashHarry wrote:
MissFelicity wrote:
Tresspass in itself is not a criminal offence. It is only criminal when committed in conjunction with other crimes (eg assault or criminal damage).
Your viewpoint and incorrect legal thinking is the reason why kayaking is dying on it's feet as a sport.
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I'll compose my letter of apology to the members of the BCU before close of business today. I was unaware that my apparent close mindedness had prevented paying members of this organisation to indulge in kayaking.
No, once again you are wrong, statute lays down instances where tresspass in itself is a criminal offence. I shall give you an example which will enable to google yourself into the light of understanding. It is a criminal offence to tresspass on a train line.
Backdooruk is, unfortunately, correct when he states that tresspass is not a criminal offence in this instance. That is supposing that the subject of the photograph in question had encountered a wide open door. If the door had been closed, unlocked even, then I think you may find that the photographer had affected an entry. This would then criminalise the offence.
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Aggravated trespass, is criminal but last time i checked damage has to have taken place before it becomes criminal. Think of the fierce energy concentrated in an acorn! You bury it in the ground, and it explodes into a giant oak! Bury a sheep, and nothing happens but decay!" —George Bernard Shaw
http://press-photos.net/Good_Causes.html
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2 Nov 09, 3:12 PM
Wiley_Kit
UK(PE), 7 yrs
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MissFelicity wrote:
FlashHarry wrote:
All the legal opinions you have ventured on this thread so far have been both half baked and largely incorrect. Tresspass can, in fact, be a criminal offence.
I would examine each of your broad brush, 'Some guy told me' statements and correct them in turn, however I will just enjoy the smug satisfaction of writing:
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Tresspass in itself is not a criminal offence. It is only criminal when committed in conjunction with other crimes (eg assault or criminal damage).
Your viewpoint and incorrect legal thinking is the reason why kayaking is dying on it's feet as a sport.
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Not with my family! My sister and my partners brother both run a watersports training school and my little nephew Harry, whos only 9 years old took his BCU Foundation Safety & Rescue Training last week and he passed and was BCU 2 star standard...but unfortunately because you need to be at least 14 years old to take it, the BCU wont award it to him 
So we are campaigning tirelessly to get that changed!
Ahh sorry, I drifted off course there, just proud of my lil chap! Ha.
I can't believe I've no control
It's all deranged - Bowie
"Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."
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2 Nov 09, 3:33 PM
Wiley_Kit
UK(PE), 7 yrs
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FlashHarry wrote:
Stallen wrote:
Aggravated trespass, is criminal but last time i checked damage has to have taken place before it becomes criminal.
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Yes, aggravated tresspass is a criminal offence. Another example of a criminal act of tresspass is that of the Offence of tresspassing on a designated nucler site. Which carries a maximum 6 month custodial sentence.
Therefore, tresspass can indeed be a criminal act without any subsequent criminal action.
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In most cases its not a criminal act though, so technically Miss Felicity was correct.
We have land that is trespassed on regularly and I know for a fact they are not causing a criminal offense.
I can't believe I've no control
It's all deranged - Bowie
"Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."
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