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Purge the Press Complaints Commission (70)

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14 Nov 09, 10:33 PM
SirLashleyS
UK(S), 5 yrs

Yes, me too.

The silky-smooth soothing voice of reason and logic. (You WILL feel much better and speak more sense while very securely tied-up...)

14 Nov 09, 10:44 PM
SirLashleyS
UK(S), 5 yrs

Although (did anyone notice last week?) 'our' government stated it now keeps a list of all 'activists'. You don't need a 'criminal record' to qualify. Merely express dissent re 'our' rulers' 'norms' and big brother's your uncle.

The silky-smooth soothing voice of reason and logic. (You WILL feel much better and speak more sense while very securely tied-up...)

14 Nov 09, 10:57 PM
katie_may
UK, 7 yrs
SirLashleyS wrote:
Although (did anyone notice last week?) 'our' government stated it now keeps a list of all 'activists'. You don't need a 'criminal record' to qualify. Merely express dissent re 'our' rulers' 'norms' and big brother's your uncle.

is that so they can keep track of todays important issues so they don't lose sight of them in an election?

well i can see how that would help :-)

show me something different xkx

14 Nov 09, 11:15 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
SirLashleyS wrote:
Although (did anyone notice last week?) 'our' government stated it now keeps a list of all 'activists'. You don't need a 'criminal record' to qualify. Merely express dissent re 'our' rulers' 'norms' and big brother's your uncle.

OK, fair enough; they may not want us to have freedom, but I want it very badly.

There's a theory that the hieght of the prison population is a corolary of law-breaking; I think it's indicative of the level of social injustice.

Night of the Cane, (probably) the best corporal punishment party in the world, takes place on Saturday 21st Novemeber.
http://www.the-firm.org/NOTCad.htm for details.

14 Nov 09, 11:58 PM
Purvection
UK(M), 8 yrs


Ishmael wrote:
I'm not shooting you, but I'm very interested in what you say.

So there's less than 1,000; that's a good figure to know for a start. There will only be a certain number within that 1,000 that have an anti-SM agenda, it would be interesting to know who. Then we could focus our attention rather more effectively.

Curious to know why it's taken you 12 days to reply, if you are that interested.

As Silent_Storm says, CAAN does have a list of anti-SM journos.It's not by any means comprehensive, but it's a start.

I don't really want to discuss this much more as I'm sick of the abuse I get from people about how I earn my living. Admittedly it's a minority but it seems to make no difference that a) I'm a long-established member of the scene, b) that I don't work for the tabloids, c) or in news-gathering full stop and d) that I despise some papers' practice of outing people.

I've only ever tried to be supportive on here when it comes to handling the press, being able to offer an insider's perspective, and I've done stuff for CAAN when I can.

People should be glad I'm on here, given that journalists have as much right to be kinky as anyone else and be part of the scene (and no one can deny my track record in running munches and supporting scene organisations). Instead I just seem to get a heap of memos calling me a liar, telling me I've no right to be on here, yadda yadda... I've posted helpful information yet again but it just gets ignored or people decide to respond so bloody late I've forgotten I even posted it. And the sad thing is we are all on the same side.

Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi

15 Nov 09, 4:35 AM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Purvection wrote:

Curious to know why it's taken you 12 days to reply, if you are that interested.

I am not attacking you; what's the problem?

Ish

Night of the Cane, (probably) the best corporal punishment party in the world, takes place on Saturday 21st Novemeber.
http://www.the-firm.org/NOTCad.htm for details.

15 Nov 09, 8:34 AM
Purvection
UK(M), 8 yrs


Ishmael wrote:
Purvection wrote:

Curious to know why it's taken you 12 days to reply, if you are that interested.

I am not attacking you; what's the problem?

Ish

I didn't say you were attacking me. I asked you why you took 12 days to reply to my stats post.

I think that, despite you now saying it was interesting, you actually didn't didn't give a toss about it until posted further info on how people here could do something proactive.

And please don't hold me responsible for the ills of my trade, which is the impression I had 2 weeks ago. I'm not ashamed of what I do for a job, only of some people who drag my job into disrepute.

Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi

15 Nov 09, 10:02 AM
C_A_A_N
UK, 4 yrs
Sorry to disappoint but of course CAAN does not have a list of anti SM journos.

First becuase it would be totally counter productive.

Second becuase it is quite difficult to spot exactly where in the journalistic process nastiness creeps in.

Last year we spent a lot of time talking to a writer for the Mail. What we expected to be a fairly positive story ended up not. When we went back to her she claimed (and we have no reason to disbelieve)that her editor chopped a load of positive stuff about CAAN.

About the same time a totally unbalanced story appeared o the bbc south east. This one we are pretty sure was simple accident.

On the whole journalists find their work gets chopped, rewritten and skewed in ways wholey beyond their control.

There are one or two very obvious exceptions. If Lewis Panther ever turns up on your doorstep you know you're in trouble, though knowing his name is likely to be the least of your worries.

On the plus side we are getting a far better idea who is trustworthy, who we can talk to. Jerome Taylor on the Independent: John Ozimek on the Register (and elsewhere); even Purvection (assuming her latest good news doesn't mean she's sold out to the establishment) ;)

Heresiarch too: we're sure you are a journalist really!

If anyone would like to add others to this list let us know.

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15 Nov 09, 10:23 AM
Purvection
UK(M), 8 yrs


C_A_A_N wrote:
Sorry to disappoint but of course CAAN does not have a list of anti SM journos.

My error. I too believed it had some kind of list.

C_A_A_N wrote:
On the whole journalists find their work gets chopped, rewritten and skewed in ways wholey beyond their control.

Absolutely true. A story can get changed at any stage - by the commission ed, the section ed, the subeditors, the lawyers. It doesn't matter whether we are freelance or staff, once the copy is filed, it's pretty much out of our hands

C_A_A_N wrote:
even Purvection (assuming her latest good news doesn't mean she's sold out to the establishment) ;)

Despite the smiley, I find the suggestion I may have sold out really insulting.

The vast majority of journalists DO have ethics. Those of us in the NUJ are also bound to the union's code of practice.

I thought I was doing people here a favour by posting some useful info so they could participate in helping reform the PCC. They are very unlikely to have found that info otherwise. Next time I won't bother if I'm just going to have run the gauntlet yet again. It's really fucking tedious.

Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi

Edited 15 Nov 09, 10:25 AM by Purvection

15 Nov 09, 12:45 PM
C_A_A_N
UK, 4 yrs
Purvection wrote:

C_A_A_N wrote:
even Purvection (assuming her latest good news doesn't mean she's sold out to the establishment) ;)

Despite the smiley, I find the suggestion I may have sold out really insulting.

The vast majority of journalists DO have ethics. Those of us in the NUJ are also bound to the union's code of practice.

I thought I was doing people here a favour by posting some useful info so they could participate in helping reform the PCC. They are very unlikely to have found that info otherwise. Next time I won't bother if I'm just going to have run the gauntlet yet again. It's really fucking tedious.

apologies Purvection...there really was no offence meant,it was a poor attempt at humour.

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