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PDs and Hygiene (11)

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professional_BDSM
Posted by professional_BDSM on Mon 19 Oct 09, 1:11 AM to the professional_BDSM group.

We've been asked to post this discussion on behalf of someone who wishes to remain anonymous.

How confident can a client be about risk of STDs or other infections?

Just as as importantly, for those with a conscience, is the PD at any risk?

Including cleaning of equipment especially anything that could draw blood and other sorts of reassurance if activities such as watersports are possible.

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19 Oct 09, 1:27 AM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 7 yrs
£
Let me try and answer this.

Firstly, if a Domme has a good, clear website.... has some sort of reputation, or reviews.... and if it's clear that they take what they do seriously, you can be pretty damn sure they will also take hygiene seriously. Those pro Dom/mes who specialise in medical play will often have a part of their website dedicated to hygiene.

Within all areas of BDSM, both in the lifestyle and professional realm, we take calculated risks - from playing with that guy we've met on several dates for the first time alone, to engaging in needle play or body fluid sharing. It comes down to trust.

In my mind, if you trust that person to play with your mind and body, then you should trust them enough that they mean what they say about hygiene.

If you encounter a dungeon or play space that you're unsure about, don't engage in the session - especially if you are doing high risk activities - needles, insertables etc...

For me personally, everything I play with is thoroughly detol'd after a session (I don't use insertables). I often engage in watersports etc, so I firstly trust my clientelle with their health and what they tell me about their health, but also have STD checks every 3-5 months. I've never once discovered anything untoward. I take my own and my submissive's health very seriously. The risks are always there, but I seek to be informed about them and to minimise them as much as possible.

www.mistresssusannah.co.uk

Edited 19 Oct 09, 1:55 AM by Mistress_Susannah

19 Oct 09, 5:25 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

I use lots of insertables :-D

Depending on the materials they are made from most of my insertables are heat sterilised after use to ensure any nasties are vanquished, kept clean and then sterilised via sterets, or similar, immediately prior to use. Condoms are used where possible.

Other insertables, such as electrodes that can't be boiled or soaked are wiped in a hibiscrub solution and left to air dry in my glass cabinets.

Some items are immediately put into a Milton solution before further sterilisation, after the session, apart from my metal stuff because bleach ruins the coating and makes the item impossible to sterilise or use safely.

I use as many disposables as I can to ensure sterility and hygiene ie caths, needles, gloves, syringes, saline pods, and loads of other stuff.

Other items such as clothing are wiped down with Dettol wipes and left to air dry between clients.

If I do anything involving blood I always wear gloves and am very careful about ensuring there is no cross-contamination.

When it comes to STDs I am regularly checked and am always carefully. I've never had an STD yet. This is important as I often do watersports via the source.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/ http://www.clips4sale.com/store/26308 http://ladyannadominatrix.c4slive.com/

20 Oct 09, 10:02 AM
Powder_Hound
UK(BL), 4 yrs

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
watersports via the source.

What a lovely expression :) Always wanted a nice way of describing this as its a favourite.

If love is blind, how come lingerie is so popular ?

20 Oct 09, 1:34 PM
LadyPandoraCP
UK(M), 6 yrs
£
I only use canes, crops, tawses, etc. so it's easy for me to keep everything clean. I use alcohol gel and hibiscrub every time something is used and, once a month, my canes go into a chlorine bath.

It's a two-way street - Ladies need to be safe from infection as much as their clients do. Nobody in their right mind will take a risk with either.

Some people are like slinkies ... they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs :-D
Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.

20 Oct 09, 3:46 PM
MistressJuliaPink
UK(M), 7 yrs
£
OK, my first post on here.

At my place I actively work with outside organisations, as much to protect my reputation and legal position as to be holier-than-thou, so I am regularly visited by the MASH team in Manchester.

This is the adult industry outreach team for Manchester.

A nurse regularly comes around bringing condoms and lube, which is a bonus in itself, and I always insist that all the house Mistresses that work here take up the offer of free, anonymous innoculations against Hep A and B.

The condoms are for our anal toys, not male to female sexual activity, or they are for sub ejaculation at the end, so I'm not sure that STD's are a factor in our case. However a sexual check up is also something the MASH team offers in private for any woman who may have personal worries.

Our equipment is kept sterilised and this is something everyone is adament about since a client who goes away with an infection (ie from sounds or needle play that becomes infected through lack of swabs, hygiene etc) is a client that never comes back and will be disparaging about our Chambers for the rest of his BDSM life! Our needles and catheters are all disposable and we have secure sharps boxes to put them into after use. Always check that equipment like this is taken out of it's packaging infront of you.

I did invite Health and Safety around when I first took over my place but you've never seen anyone look so scared, or run out of the place so quickly, in your life! lol The ironic thing was that the main Health and Safety sites for BDSM are based abroad and cannot be accessed on government computers! Ha! However maybe it would be best if Health and Safety had a little more information available to them. Some Mistresses are dangerous through ignorance and we should be regulated up to a point to make things safer for all.

For any subs that are worried I would suggest asking a few basic questions beforehand, you'll soon be able to spot who's who.

MISTRESS JULIA PINK www.themanchesterdungeon.com

Edited 20 Oct 09, 3:49 PM by MistressJuliaPink

20 Oct 09, 6:06 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Powder_Hound wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
watersports via the source.

What a lovely expression :) Always wanted a nice way of describing this as its a favourite.

I'm afraid I didn't understand it ... am I naive?

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

21 Oct 09, 11:12 AM
MistressJuliaPink
UK(M), 7 yrs
£
Watersports direct from the Mistress' vagina as opposed to from a glass.

Not that it makes that much difference.

The glass can be contaminated as well as the urine, which can include certain drugs, urinary infections, as well as taste differently according to what the Mistress has been eating or drinking etc. If a Mistress is on Her period that too can contaminate the urine.

'From the source' makes little difference to the safety of the urine itself. And unless there is extremely intimate drinking of urine, as opposed to directional play, I can see absolutely zero risk to the Domme of any STD's passing!!

Mistress Julia Pink www.themanchesterdungeon.com

Edited 21 Oct 09, 11:17 AM by MistressJuliaPink

21 Oct 09, 2:32 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

MistressJuliaPink wrote:

'From the source' makes little difference to the safety of the urine itself. And unless there is extremely intimate drinking of urine, as opposed to directional play, I can see absolutely zero risk to the Domme of any STD's passing!!

Ah well, there is the way I do it, which is why I said what I said.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/ http://www.clips4sale.com/store/26308 http://ladyannadominatrix.c4slive.com/

21 Oct 09, 4:30 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

MistressJuliaPink wrote:
Watersports direct from the Mistress' vagina as opposed to from a glass.

Thanks for the explanation. Never occurred to me it might be from a glass.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

22 Oct 09, 3:01 PM
MistressJuliaPink
UK(M), 7 yrs
£
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
MistressJuliaPink wrote:

'From the source' makes little difference to the safety of the urine itself. And unless there is extremely intimate drinking of urine, as opposed to directional play, I can see absolutely zero risk to the Domme of any STD's passing!!

Ah well, there is the way I do it, which is why I said what I said.

Now I'm confused? Which is that then?? I always thought that a sexually transmitted disease was so named for a reason!!!

Mistress Julia Pink www.themanchesterdungeon

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