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| professional_BDSM |
This group was formed by a number of professional dominants who were quite frankly fed up of feeling as though we were being judged, castigated and stoned by a series of troglodytes who see us as fair game on a board that we have been banished to, on a site that condones abuse of people based purely on the profession.
Professional BDSMers on IC have, over the years, answered every single possible question regarding their job, in an articulate, open, helpful, enlightening way, not once, but time and time again, patiently and with, as oft been remarked, good humour. All answers to all possible questions are to be found on this board for those who care to do a search. Unfortunately, this openness and accessibility has resulted in an opportunity for bigots and other assorted trolls to stone PDs for their decision to earn a living doing something that they are good at, and enjoy.
The segregation of all matters professional from the rest of the board has succeeded in cleaning up the rest of the site as 'PD haters' migrate to the PD board. Everyone has a view. Everyone should be able to express their point of view. Of course they can, we understand and welcome that. However, should freedom of speech be something like this?
| Saying simply that you are a professional dominant isnt enough! Come on answer your op and tell the world that for you - anna from bradford ; its just about the cash. |
| You dont get anything out of it other than what you gain i.e cash, chores, a free bi boy for a forced bi client. It isnt something that you genuinely enjoy or else your rl partner would be a submissive! |
| I feel sorry for the dudes that werent blessed like myself and have to pay for it. How do they know if they are getting a real domme or just some bird who enjoys being bummed and spanked in their sparetime and only use bdsm as a source of income? |
| This thread and the one before it asked if it was all about cash and if it is all about cash - how can you call it lifestyle?? Both rouge and anna Bradford both have partners in rl. In rl, bdsm isn't something that does anything for them so when they do domme - ITS JUST FOR CASH. If I wanted a Domme I'd look for a genuine domme who dommes out of pleasure rather than cash. |
How about this? Is this a valid point of view?
| Why isn't your boyfriend a sub? It's because it doesn't really do it for you. Like most women, you enjoy being banged from behind whilst your hair is being pulled. You enjoy looking up into your partners eyes while you give him oral. It's ok, Uncle Delph knows the score. |
| Pd's shameless use of this site to make money brings it down, your falseness and your insincerity brings it down. True bdsm peeps make it what it is, you are in it for what you can get from it hence the very small amount of support you get. The majority of ic members have a very low opinion of people who only use this website and bdsm as a whole to gain cash. |
Again, is that valid or fair? Professional BDSMers contribute in a huge way within the scene. Clubs, munches and community forums are often run by professionals. Most of us have a yellow star next to our username which denotes that we have contributed to the upkeep of this site.
Contrary to troll-like belief professionals don't play at clubs and parties to advertise. They play because they enjoy it. You only need to watch someone playing to know if they are enjoying themselves or not. Trotting out the tired old prejudices that we do it to advertise, that we don't really enjoy it, that we're in it for the cash is just that – prejudice. Should prejudice be tolerated? Should prejudice be tolerated when the facts that speak for themselves are wilfully ignored? The quotes above were directed at a professional dominatrix who also plays at private parties, who teaches others her skills, who contributes to discussions, who donates to this site, and is currently setting up a much needed munch in her area. You may think that persistent, consistent, harassment, prejudice and persecution is against the rules of this site. Certainly, many other members have expressed dismay.
| I don't get why those who are so against pro-domme activity on this site come baiting on the pro-domme boards. I mean, why?? I don't go onto Star Trek or Top Gear boards and proclaim I hate the bastard programme; but it's absolutely fine with me that they are there for those who want them. The men attacking the pro-dommes here are insulting the clients more than the PDs by assuming they haven't worked out for themselves what it is worth to them to have the opportunity to explore their desires to submit. And to call those who support PDs 'sycophants' is just a pathetic device to discount the opinions of those who disagree with one. As a non-pro lifestyle dominant woman, I am more than very happy to share the boards with pro-dommes, many of whom I have enjoyed spending time with in a variety of scene and non scene settings... I have learnt a great deal from some of them through their generous sharing of ideas and extremely supportive attitude towards others like myself. Like any of us on here, what they do in their private life is not our business if they chose for it not to be - they can have a stable of Doms of their own or spend every non-working moment in tartan slippers smoking a pipe for all it should affect their right to be here. Their motives may be as varied as any of the rest of us - so what. I have no idea what makes anyone think - as someone said here - that most of the members of IC would rather not have women who practice as PDs here. It's certainly not the case for me, or any of my non-pro IC friends. These noisy objectors may not want or need to visit PDs but it clearly suits many others or there wouldn't be an industry. And if we lost the PDs from IC it would be a far poorer place. JennyM |
The AUP states that you aren't allowed to call someone a name. As long as you don't actually call them a name, as in a noun, you can say what the hell you want. An example is...
| A few bits of play in clubs? how the fuck does that constitute a session. Just be honest! In RL you enjoy vanilla sex with your vanilla partner and when someone has £200 you are into whatever they pay you to do. Oh and btw, I didnt call you a fraud so dont you dare simplify my erm work. When someone says one thing and does the other to get cash I call them charlatans. Where have I called you a charlatan? |
So what does Admin have to say about the situation?
| The AUP works both ways, and you (plural) are just as willing to use derogatory language like the above, as the people who ask you (plural) commercially inconvenient questions. I've received a lot of complaints about Delphian from a small group of people, but I'm not going to suppress his point of view (and it's not as if he's alone in his position) any more than I'm going to suppress the pro-pro view. To have a place for discussing one particular point of view, why not start a group weblog? That way you (plural) can moderate the content yourselves. Admin |
'Commercially inconvenient questions'?
His 'point of view'?
Says it all really, doesn't it?
For as long as people continue to abuse us, question our integrity, accuse us of lying, cheating and other libellous claims - whilst skirting the AUP, We will retaliate by calling them exactly what they are - also by skirting the AUP.
Calling me, and other PDs liars and cheats, and commenting (with no knowledge whatsoever) on what he thinks my personal relationship to be, in graphic sexual detail - is NOT commercially inconvenient. It is personal abuse and harassment. Most trolls have the decency to not go that far.
Nice to know where we PDs stand though, eh?
And so we have decided to boycott our pillory on the main boards and instead we will contain all our discussion to a forum where we can moderate and deal with the hate in our own way. As we said earlier, differing points of view are fine, we welcome it, but we will not tolerate hate or personal insult.
Edited Thu 8 Oct 09, 5:42 PM by professional_BDSM
