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What happens - when you don't want pain anymore ? (30)

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8 Oct 09, 5:19 PM
whelpy
UK(OX), 5 yrs

Hi kes

I started to reply to this blog but the emotion i felt made me delete it all.

Maybe too personal for me.

May i just say that it is akin to my own direction and feelings at times.

Kind of stuck between worlds at the mo but wish you to know that am glad i read this.

Receiving pain for another is only a miniscule part of me as a submissive and it's easy to have the worries that you describe when it seems to be all that is required.

Do remember your evening when you came home from hols :-)

kai

"If you want to kiss the sky, better learn how to kneel."

8 Oct 09, 7:47 PM
tanken
UK(NR), 2 yrs

kesriel wrote:
What happens - when you don't want pain anymore ?

You've been a masochist all your adult life.....you've fantasised about pain....dreamt about the forms such might take....craved the release pain can bring.....hungered after the depraved pleasure that torrents through your body in it's aftermath.....

BUT.....what happens.....when that pain is no longer anticipated with fevered want.....but instead it is feared.....it is dreaded.....

What happens when you body tenses against that first cold strike and all you can feel is a fire of pain almost too intense to bear ....where before it would bring a rush of heady endorphins that opened a door to feral hunger.....but now.....it brings only tears that do nothing to calm that empty feeling of undeserved pain......worse still....much, much, worse still......there is a tiny voice that begins to whisper "why"....why are you doing this to yourself, why are you just taking this pain, why do you subject yourself to being hurt like this......you did nothing wrong why must you be hurt.......you're a good person.....can't love be enough......

i realise that everyone goes through different times in their life when their masochistic relationship with pain changes......perhaps through illness, perhaps because a change of sexual or emotional Partner, perhaps simply because age brings with it different needs and different priorities, for some ladies it is simply a monthly cycle when pain can not be tolerated as well......for some.....it is just the continual evolution of life, whether physical, phsychological, emotional or mental....the growth process continues ....and what was wished ten years ago is no longer the same as what we wish now.....

but what if it seems to be for no reason.....when there is just the confusion of unanswered questions......not just within your own mind......but in the sense of loss from your Partner.......

i started this weblog to ask a general question....to ask if perhaps others had gone through this......but....i realise i am doing so because i am ashamed of how i feel.....

i feel that i have broken some secret code....that i have blighted my lifetime subscription to the bdsm community and must await the knock on the IC door that gently ushers me out because i am no longer one of the "gang"....

i want to play....i want to please...i want to serve....i want to feel His pleasure.....i want Him to spank me....to take my over His knee at bedtime and use the back of His hairbrush to make my bottom sting........i want more.....

BUT.......yesterday He caned me.....nothing else, just the cane......and when the pain hit me, not for the first time, the tiny voice whispered "why?"......i bit back tears, part in pain, part in frustration, part in fear.......i don't want to be hurt......i just want to be loved.......is that such a terrible thing, am i no longer welcome within the "Club"....

worse still.....have i betrayed Him....have i let Him down.....have i mislead Him.....have i disppointed Him.....

will He draw away from me now......will He shake His head sadly, shrug His shoulders and let me go, grudgingly, but let me go as i am of no use to Him any more.......

yes i am at a sensitive point in my cycle, it lasts only a few days, perhaps it was just bad timing......but what happens if it is not......

i'm scared.......am i wrong just to want to belong......is it so wrong to want to have the fun of playing but to dread the time when He says He wants a "heavy session"....to feel an unwilling emotional withdrawal because He is going to hurt me again.....to feel the desperate apprehension of the pain and the confusion of why He wants to hurt me again....

am i going to become just another girl who can only fulfil a part of His need......He is too honourable to just leave me.....so i will become just someone He sees for that "light stuff".....but that He'll see someone else for the really intense heavy pain that He might want to give......

maybe this is just a moment in time.....a fear i have tried to keep secret and has grown to become more than it really is.....

maybe it was just because i could not grow into the pain to want it...to want more of it.....

i don't know.....i just know that i'm afraid that a bad experience and a bad head space and, perhaps, a more vulnerable physical body sensation will cause me shy away from any such experience in the future.......that will cause me to draw away from Him......and will, eventually, cause Him to let me do so.....

please understand that i am not writing this because i am a coward....i am writing this because i am brave enough to admit this truth within myself.....please, do not judge me as a lesser person because i have done so...

thank You

~with much respect~

kes...xxx

Have a rethink. It is possible for masochists to stop being masochists. All kinds of things can happen in a lifetime. It is always possible to enjoy something new if our old pleasures fade, IMO :)

"Red hair and black leather is my favourite colour scheme" - Richard Thompson

8 Oct 09, 9:17 PM
whelpy
UK(OX), 5 yrs

DanesWood wrote:
Besides, not every submissive enjoys pain, but will endure it as an element of their submission. If that were the case you could still provide that for your Master.

Have been thinking about this over the evening and it is true for me that a great deal of my pleasure in submission is derived from doing just this, rather than it being about fulfilling masochistic tendencies.

i absolutely love to please and make my Domme pleased,that sometimes involves taking pain which i find difficult to endure.

kai x

"If you want to kiss the sky, better learn how to kneel."

8 Oct 09, 9:29 PM
Big_Friendly_Giant
UK(RM), 9 yrs
Also kes sometimes a person may need pain to contact a part of themselves. They need to be pushed through the door with pain. Pain may be one of the only way to feel and cry.

However as we grow and learn to one by one face our demon's. We can start to feel more and not have a thousnad firewalls to prevent emotions from comming to the surface. We can feel and not fear those feelings.

PLease do not feel that this is anyones fault. Rather it is a credit to the support and love that your Master has helped you grow and start to heal.

It has been said that a newborn baby crys because it fears being born. In the time you have been my friend you have grown year by year. your journey continues :)

And kes, IF you are EVER thrown out of the BDSM community.

GOD HELP US ALL.

Becasue you are still the only slave that I know.

Edited 10 Oct 09, 3:09 AM by Big_Friendly_Giant

8 Oct 09, 10:38 PM
Tadashii_Aikouka
5 yrs
One thing worth considering is that this time of year can make you question all kinds of things. It's a time of change. I can recognise this now, after 4 years of freaking out and nearly splitting up with my partner in October.

Change can cause insecurities to surface. It's natural to simply want to feel loved at these times. For that to be enough. To want to know that it is you that he wants, not what you can do for him, or what he can do to you.

I'm much more D/s than SM, but I think the same applies. My need for D/s wanes when I am questioning aspects of my relationship and of my life in general. At these times I just want things to be simple, and I need reassurance.

It will pass.

9 Oct 09, 1:43 PM
Malbon
UK(LS), 8 yrs

If you are not valued for more than your ability to receive a caning then you are in the wrong place. I wouldn't worry quite so much about it, though you are clearly a very sensitive person who inclines to this.

I have certainly experienced this from the other side of the equation, where a girl who has previously accepted the rod gladly suddenly appears to find it is really too much for her. This can be difficult to judge, since on these occasions it may not be apparent to her until the scene is underway.

The cane is a powerful instrument, to be handled with care, caution and respect. Especially if it is to be delivered cold, without any other preparation.

A temporary indisposition, or a watershed in your development? Only you can decide, and I hope you find you can talk things through with your Master.

A gentleman is a man who can play the accordion but doesn't.

13 Oct 09, 12:43 AM
kayak1
UK(PA), 4 yrs
Seems to me you are at a crossroads and there is no rush to decide which road you take. It may be as many have said just a blip, things will get back to the way they were, on the other hand life just keeps on going on and people do change and grow, don't dismiss the thought that maybe the lifestyle has changed in it's importance to you as a person. Personally, I came off IC for a while, because it and the lifestyle was becoming too big a part off my life,other areas were being neglected. Now I'm happy accepting it is an important part, but only a part of who I am. I've changed does'nt mean it's a bad thing just life. If it's just a blip your feeling and pleasure will return, if it's not a blip and you keep feeling uneasy, don't persevere maybe you've just changed in a good way for you. Thats the important thing look after you ! Really hope things work out for you think things thro listen to your intuition and don't rush :)
14 Oct 09, 3:06 PM
The_Counsellor
UK(WA), 5 yrs
First I want to commend your honesty and self awareness in posting this. It's a very courageous thing to ask these questions and face up to the potential for change.

Second I'd like to say that change is normal, staying the same isn't. This change in your feelings, needs desires may be temporary or long term. Don't worry about it and don't feel ashamed of a normal thing. It may be triggered by the time of the month or something that happened or just one of those things. Talk about it. You are you, and cannot help being you. Be yourself, with authenticity.

Remember we all change. He isn't static either. You may find you both moving on into something even more profound than what you have shared till now.

The Counsellor Kink Friendly Counselling and Therapy Let me help you to be the best you that you can be

14 Oct 09, 5:42 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs

You don't HAVE to like anything. Just because you used to enjoy something doesn't mean you have to continue to enjoy it.

I'm often mocked on here in private because I don't like pain, at all, not one little bit. Yet there are plenty of things in this world that don't involve pain and are still very enjoyable.

You're not weird for having a change of heart, trust me.

And if the person you're with can't deal with the fact you're not enjoying something, then you're not the right people for each other. I can't see it's any more complicated than that.

14 Oct 09, 6:10 PM
safeandsoundbdsm
UK(S), 5 yrs
We all experience times in our lives when temporary or permanent changes in our desires, needs and wants occur. These times are difficult to understand and even bare. The dynamics of a relationship with BDSM and then also with a partner do need reassessment and redefining as a result of change. This does not mean that anyone has failed or transgressed, it is a natural occurrence of life as things do not stay the same for ever.

Where there is such a self questioning, in my opinion, it needs to be shared and discussed with the other person involved.

If you are viewing the pain as undeserved there is a central shift in your views.

You have not “broken some secret code “nor have you done wrong, you are a good person.

When I realised that I loved my present partner and the extent of my love for her I felt unable to inflict pain upon her. In fact I felt it would be wrong to do so and would be totally against the love I felt for her. I could not come to terms with this by myself and talking to her helped me find my way again. This was a different way than before and whilst much has remained the same as before much has also changed. This change did not lessen our love. You have not betrayed either yourself or your partner. How change alters a relationship is not always certain but we can not stop change.

We all need to belong, that is part of human nature as we are social creatures.

Share your feeling, worries and concerns with your partner.

Chris

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