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| 27 Sep 09, 11:23 PM AnEnglishMaster UK(ME), 5 yrs  |
Presumably, participating in a club night, which is at least semi-public, should not be considered private. It is certainly possible that someone at a club could believe it is perfectly acceptable for THEM to be there, but not a teacher. You could have an older pupil, or one who had left a school only a few years earlier. They may be curious, or out for a laugh with friends, rather than committed to BDSM. And, as such, the idea sometimes mooted here that "if they are there, they can't criticise you for being there" is false. And a school can sack a teacher for bringing the school into disrepute - which is so subjective that the chances of your disproving it must be remote. It is one of those "we consider it brings the school into disrepute, therefore it DOES". After all, when an old man can be arrested at the Labour conference for heckling a politician, and they try to charge him under the "Prevention of Terrorism" Act, why would you think reason might prevail? We have allowed ourselves to become more scrutinised, checked and re-checked, databased, videoed, identified, numbered, listed and coded than any previous generation. Big Brother Blair started it and Big Brother Brown continues it. And they lull us by claiming it is for our "safety". So much for civil liberties - and the ramifications are appearing more and more in such ways as this.
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| 27 Sep 09, 11:26 PM Degenerate  UK(M), 5 yrs    |
Thanks so much to everyone who has replied to this on the forum and in private. You lot are ace.  De Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk Edited 27 Sep 09, 11:28 PM by Degenerate | ||
| 27 Sep 09, 11:30 PM wonderer UK, 5 yrs |
One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given is that - perhaps more than many professions - teaching can be (or become) vocational; something you really want to do and without which you'd feel deprived. It can also become very much part of your identity; not just something you do (at the moment) but something you are. And so I think if someone was "outed" and was disqualified from teaching might find it even more distressing and tragic than in other professions. I get the impression there are a lot of college and university teachers in kink; not sure about school teachers. Hope things work out for you. Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ | ||
| 28 Sep 09, 8:50 AM MasterOfMe UK(WD), 6 yrs |
Simple scenario: Female Teacher/Domme is at a club. Male sub approachers her and is told not interested. Male sub threatens to out her unless she plays with him. What would you do? | ||
| 28 Sep 09, 11:36 AM MadameCaramel UK(E), 5 yrs £  |
A serious beating hee hee,then tell him to go and complain to Pope too!!!
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| 28 Sep 09, 1:53 PM Balone 3 yrs |
I think there's probably a difference between playing with someone in private (at home) and going out to clubs and places that are open to the public. Public life covers going to clubs and going to work so if someone is not happy mixing the two they should change/stop one. You're not keeping it private if you practice it in public. I know a teacher who is homosexual. She didn't want her working colleagues/pupils to know but, realizing she had to be herself in public to find a partner, has failed to keep it quiet. It's just not realistic to think you can lead two public lives without skills in temporary facial reconstruction and a wardrobe of disguises. Pais porrada | ||
| 28 Sep 09, 4:38 PM slavejef UK(SP), 9 yrs |
It is sad that this question should even have to be raised. In a democratic country populated by mature adults, there should be no interest in other peoples' private lives. Unfortunately the media here have been encouraged to promote prurience via the "celebrity" culture. And the less said about "democracy" in the UK the better. But yes, to be a teacher and seriously into kink is not going to be easy. It will be necessary never to mention BDSM to anyone even distantly associated with the school and even to avoid mentioning teaching when at BDSM events. | ||
| 29 Sep 09, 8:45 PM ContraBasso UK, 5 yrs |
With the vetting for the CRB and ISA checks there is little likelyhood that you will get into teaching if there is anything known publicly about your BDSM interest. There is certainly NO chance of a school keeping you on if you are ever outed at a public or private place. If you are recognised at a munch or dress/play event by a parent or ex pupil, then two standards will be applied - the harsher one for you. Can you be 100% certain that you will never have an acrimonious fall out with a partner or fetish acquaintance who might out you. Remember that websites are often cached for years see the "wayback machine" If you ever existed on a www then there is at least one copy of all of that there for searching in caches and archives. If you really love teaching being slung out in disgrace will be severe sentence. Teaching isn't a soft job, be careful that you don't make it harder. It's hard enough for a teacher to be Gay in a stable relationship, and you want them to understand that BDSM is OK. CRB checks for criminal record ISA can check for other suspicions held by police and other bodies -It came into being because the caretaker from Soham that killed two girls had no criminal record BUT some suspicious incidents related to him and his girlfriend and some young girls, from earlier when they lived elsewhere. Everyone I've known on scene who thought that work wouldnt find out suddenly needed a change of career. Why start? | ||
| 3 Oct 09, 12:54 PM Degenerate UK(M), 5 yrs |
Message from the OP. Thanks so much to everyone who responded to this query both in thread and in memo. People here are great at sharing their experience/expertise. Yay for IC. 
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| 18 Nov 09, 10:21 PM slave_atara UK(RG), 4 yrs |
I think that is the only way it can be done |
