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No sex please ! We're Dominatrices.... (76)

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9 Sep 09, 11:44 PM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
MissP wrote:
Sorceror wrote:
Whilst others here ask if you can go to 11 I'd ask what symphonies do you know between 3 and 5 ?

Why Symphony No. 8 in B minor of course. The unfinished symphony :)

Game Miss P. I lost that one on wit AND erudition.

S....x.

10 Sep 09, 12:03 AM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

Sorceror wrote:
Okay - tongue briefly out of cheek (my own or anyone else's).

I'm an experienced switch. I've played at Lash, Caesar's, Couch Club, Nemesis, Torture Garden - double Dommed, Domed a pair simultaneously. So I'm not some callow novice.

And I've heard of the phenomenon before - a friend of a friend refused sex to someone with whom she'd just sessioned with the line "what's the point ?"

And I'm sure female sexuality works differently...

But for males desire tends to peak and, in the normal run of things, is dissipated by orgasm. And if for whatever reason you get nearly all the way there but not quite - IMHO most men would feel "unsettled" afterwards. But I do say "most"...

For me BDSM is sexual - whether actual intercourse takes place or not it is sexual. But I've heard it argued too many times that it isn't to not accept the possibility that for some BDSM is not sexual.

For you it may be sexual and as such you need an orgasm, but for others it can be sexual but they don't want or need an orgasm. An orgasm can signify the end of the session, but some don't want the session to end so they will put off having an orgasm until they are ready, whether it is that night or a few days later. For others it isn't sexual because they consider sex as something that they have with their wife and their wife only. Horses for courses and all that.

I was generally interested to understand how the "no sex" thing worked - was it just a limitation on the type of sexual contact involved or was it a genuine total bar ? I'm sure that there are pro Dommes out there who just offer chastisement who genuinely mean "no sex". But then what do the male clients get from it ? is the BDSM alone fulfilling enough ? Obviously for some it must be.

The 'no sex' thing usually means "you're not shagging me mate so don't even go there, nor are you getting a blow job". As to what a PD will do that is entirely up to her. There isn't a manual or a code of practise or anything and boundaries can shift depending on her mood, her beliefs, her changing mood, her changing beliefs...the point being that it is up to her, not up to the client ie there is no price list, nothing can be ordered. Just because there is 'no sex' doesn't mean that it won't be the most sensuous or mind blowing hour you have ever had.

For some clients a good telling off *is* all they need. Some want a good kicking, some want serious pain, some want humiliation because they need it for a myriad of reasons that sometimes even they don't understand. You've answered your own question there...

For me personally there is a "dicktomy" (sic). My life would be FAR simpler without BDSM. If I could rationally and painlessly discard it that would be the logical choice. But the desires are very deep seated indeed - in essential ways I am literally lead by my balls. That doesn't dissipate my ability for rational thought or analysis ... but it does lead me to take risks with my life that I would not ordinarily do. I think a valid query would be "Would you do BDSM if you didn't need to do BDSM" ?

I've been fortunate enough to occasionally play with some of the most experienced people on the scene and I've seen others in action. Once at Nemesis I sessioned with an attractive tall blonde Amazonian Domme. I approached the session with some significant degree of trepidation because I had just witnessed her flogging an elderly man no younger than his late 60s until his backside ran with blood. But I indicated a wish for "sensuous" and after that session, no orgasm involved, you could have poured me.

So why are you asking these questions when you have already discovered that an orgasm isn't always needed? :-D

So contrary to your original assumptions, which I fully accept were undoubetdly the result of my rather provocative phrasing, I do have a taste for the finer things in life.

Whilst other considerations would apply than purely financial in considering your services my query would not be to your severest strokes, but to your gentlest. Whilst others here ask if you can go to 11 I'd ask what symphonies do you know between 3 and 5 ?

S....x.

A good PD knows all her symphonies ;)

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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10 Sep 09, 8:08 AM
MistressKeene
3 yrs
£
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
The 'no sex' bit is for the benefit of those who can't see the difference between what we do and ordinary bog-standard prostitution.

Agreed, Lady_Anna, it is important that a sub sees the difference between what an encounter with a prostitute is like to that of a Professional Dominatrix. With PDs they call the tune regarding what if any sexual contact and play goes on, whereas with a prostitute they offer all manner of sexual services and a client may choose which one(s) he wishes.

I like the idea that in my sessions I can do what I like and go in whatever direction I feel. I always say that penetrative sex and me doing oral on him are definitely out, but pretty much anything else, well, that is for me to decide when and if I want to.

As has been said, subs comes to PDs for all kinds of reasons and have varying degrees of sexual connection to it.

I am as comfortable with those who are not viewing the session as sexual as those who are.

Finally, regarding the OP's question about CP. Maybe I am being odd but any PD who offers CP should know how to handle her implements with finesse and sensuality just as much as with strength and endurance. It had never occurred to me that emphasis was placed so much on the high pain end of the spectrum.

10 Sep 09, 10:46 AM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Sorceror wrote:

I'm an experienced switch. I've played at Lash, Caesar's, Couch Club, Nemesis, Torture Garden - double Dommed, Domed a pair simultaneously. So I'm not some callow novice.

.... Once at Nemesis I sessioned with an attractive tall blonde Amazonian Domme.

Sorry, but that doesn't sound like 'an experienced switch', by any stretch of the imagination. A few sessions in clubs don't count for dick, tbh.

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
The antidote to whinge threads...?

10 Sep 09, 10:49 AM
MistressRouge
UK(B), 6 yrs
£
Jahc99 wrote:
Sorceror wrote:

I'm an experienced switch. I've played at Lash, Caesar's, Couch Club, Nemesis, Torture Garden - double Dommed, Domed a pair simultaneously. So I'm not some callow novice.

.... Once at Nemesis I sessioned with an attractive tall blonde Amazonian Domme.

Sorry, but that doesn't sound like 'an experienced switch', by any stretch of the imagination. A few sessions in clubs don't count for dick, tbh.

Giggles :-D

" The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. Resist it and your soul grows sick with longing, for the things it has forbidden itself" Oscar Wilde
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10 Sep 09, 11:05 AM
Ms_Tytania_London
3 yrs
Sorceror wrote:
My life would be FAR simpler without BDSM.

My life would be FAR simpler without HMRC, but there you go.

http://www.mstytania.com

10 Sep 09, 11:35 AM
MissP
UK(EN), 8 yrs
Sorceror wrote:
MissP wrote:
Sorceror wrote:
Whilst others here ask if you can go to 11 I'd ask what symphonies do you know between 3 and 5 ?

Why Symphony No. 8 in B minor of course. The unfinished symphony :)

Game Miss P. I lost that one on wit AND erudition.

S....x.

Whythangew :-D

www.thedivinemissp.co.uk

10 Sep 09, 11:43 AM
tanken
UK(NR), 2 yrs

Sorceror wrote:
But for males desire tends to peak and, in the normal run of things, is dissipated by orgasm. And if for whatever reason you get nearly all the way there but not quite - IMHO most men would feel "unsettled" afterwards. But I do say "most"...

Some men can hang on to sexual tension for days if not weeks and make good use of sexual hormones to get 'high' during that period. :)

Sorceror wrote:
For me BDSM is sexual - whether actual intercourse takes place or not it is sexual. But I've heard it argued too many times that it isn't to not accept the possibility that for some BDSM is not sexual.

BDSM can still be sexual without ending play with intercourse or masturbation.

"Red hair and black leather is my favourite colour scheme" - Richard Thompson

10 Sep 09, 1:22 PM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 7 yrs
£
It's all marketing really. Pro Dommes can market themselves however they so wish. I prefer to avoid the "no sex" thing on my website because what I do is very sexual - I prefer to be specific on my website by saying that penetration is out! That's not a dig at any other pro Domme, it's just the way I choose to market myself in light of the activities I'm into. And in over 5 years, touch wood, I've only had one guy who asked me for a fuck (professionally speaking) on the phone!

You see I think this is at the very heart of why there is often a lot of misunderstandings on this board. I think there is an assumption amongst the less experienced - by less experienced I mean within the world of pro Domming - that we're all virtually the same service provider and it's a very "one size fits all" thing. It always fails to take into account that we all do really different things, we all have totally different styles of play. At its heart, that's why you don't sit home and have a wank.... you choose to submit to a very particular woman.... not just any woman you've put a drawing pin in on a list, but the one who's writing and website have really touched you. It's a little more spiritual than just getting your rocks off.... although of course that often happens too.... of course, being denied for an hour or so in the company of a real tease produces quite a good one!

This isn't a huge criticism of the OP - but if he were to have a good look on websites nowadays, he'd find that very few state "no sex", particularly amongst the women who post regularly on this forum.... what he would find is that we're a little more specific about what we do and don't do, that's all.

www.mistresssusannah.co.uk

10 Sep 09, 3:43 PM
Ms_Tytania_London
3 yrs
Mistress_Susannah wrote:
<what's blindingly obvious for many but not the OP>

Exactly. Thanks for taking the time to explain that to those who still need the clarification.

http://www.mstytania.com

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