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We need your stories about discrimination for EHRC (46)

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25 Aug 09, 10:53 AM
Masters_Delight
UK(WD), 5 yrs

MasterOfMe wrote:
Best of luck guys, it's an excellent idea. I'm fortunate in never having been a victim of this sort of thing or you would have my submission already.

You and submission do not go in the same sentence...

I'm so fucking fabulous, i piss glitter. :-D

25 Aug 09, 8:56 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

Masters_Delight wrote:
MasterOfMe wrote:
Best of luck guys, it's an excellent idea. I'm fortunate in never having been a victim of this sort of thing or you would have my submission already.

You and submission do not go in the same sentence...

*chuckles*

Ah I can't tell you how it pleases me to sit here awaiting all these submissions... SUBMIT TO ME NOW! (please... if you don't mind... ta)

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Edited 25 Aug 09, 8:57 PM by Degenerate

25 Aug 09, 9:45 PM
Smartarse
UK(CM), 7 yrs
I can't say these have happened to me, but they could be added to the list of examples:

Having part or all of a profile deleted from a vanilla dating site because it expressed kinkiness.

Having a kinky item delisted on E-bay.

Being a member of a yahoo group or similar that has been removed by the provider because it was about kink.

31 Aug 09, 10:02 AM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

Who's got time to explain what is putting them off getting involved in this? We know lots of you have experiences we really need the evidence of, but we're surprised at how slow the response is. We are getting a response, but it does not represent the extent of the problems we face.

Do you think your information won't be anonymised? It will!

Is the information unclear? Say aye if this is your problem!

Are people afraid to join in? Say aye!

Do you think there's no point in submitting our evidence? Say aye!

Anything else? Tell us so we can discuss, fix it or support.

Thanks in advance

De

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Edited 31 Aug 09, 10:03 AM by Degenerate

31 Aug 09, 6:24 PM
Mad_Monk
UK(BH), 4 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
Who's got time to explain what is putting them off getting involved in this? We know lots of you have experiences we really need the evidence of, but we're surprised at how slow the response is. We are getting a response, but it does not represent the extent of the problems we face.

Do you think your information won't be anonymised? It will!

In reply:

C_A_A_N wrote:

SURVEY ON DISCRIMINATION AND MARGINALISED CONSENSUAL ADULT SEXUALITY / INTERESTS

...

YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION WILL NEVER BE SHARED WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION, BUT PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THE STORIES ARE FOR PUBLICATION

1. Contact details (email address or other). If you really don't wish to be contacted we will respect that, but may not be able to use your story if you cannot verify certain things which may arise in followup.*

2. Who are you (real names will not be released without your permission, but we do need to verify you are a real person)*

a. name

b. pseudonym

c. role, if relevant (eg Freda Bloggs, primary school teacher)?

It's the above bit. I don't get any discrimination because I don't let anyone outside my more intimate social circle know the full details of my sexuality. My close 'nilla friends know that I'm “a bit kinky” and like to try to embarrass me at dinner parties with sly digs in good humour (“Oh, X would know all about that”, etc) but that is as far as it goes.

The only time I signed up to a campaign in this mode, the organisation accidentally sent my email address – with the rest of their mailing list – to the Daily Mail of all bloody papers!

So, good luck, and I do appreciate everything you're doing and working towards, but...

"He took a single sip of her pain and found it exquisite"

8 Sep 09, 12:54 PM
C_A_A_N
UK, 4 yrs
THIS ITEM HAS NOW BEEN ALTERED TO HOPEFULLY IMPROVE IT AND DUE TO INCORRECT DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE, thanks for those whose advice has helped to do so :-)

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8 Sep 09, 1:20 PM
Backdooruk
UK(BA), 12 yrs
Surprisingly I have something to post:

I'm in the process of changing jobs and it's been suggested to me that I would not pass Security Clearance for some of the potential positions specifically because of my sadism and the current medical (pathological) opinion of this.

I don't know if that's true or not since I don't know about the workings of the SC process, but it has given me pause for thought.

- Chris

Vivez sans temps mort

8 Sep 09, 1:28 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

Oh no, sorry to hear that - hope it's not true! That's really interesting.

Chris - would be cool if you're willing to submit that info, but I understand if not.

Even if it's not true it says something about how things are these days.

Fingers crossed this isn't going to be a problem for you.

De

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Edited 8 Sep 09, 1:35 PM by Degenerate

8 Sep 09, 1:42 PM
Fourfiveone
UK, 7 yrs
There are two incidents from my past that might be relevant. The first one I'll e-mail as I think it definitely is.

The second one I'm unsure on, so I'll post it here and see what people think.

Back in 2000 I was in a punk/metal nightclub and I was wearing leathers and a studded collar, purely for fashion (or lack of it) reasons.

Three guys wearing jeans and casual shirts approached me and one of them asked me if I was into "domination". I was suspicious about why he was asking me, partly because the three seemed fairly drunk, and I wasn't sure whether they were looking for a conversation, a fight, or sex.

I asked him what he meant and he pointed at my collar and said "that means you're into domination, doesn't it? You force people to take it up the arse."

I replied with something along the lines of "No, it's just a collar," and he asked me why I was wearing it. At this point one of the other guys told him that I was lying and he should give me an uppercut.

They got more threatening and the guy who was doing most of the talking demanded to know why I was wearing the collar, I told him that it looked cool and I'd borrowed it off my brother. He asked if my brother was in the club, and I told him he was, so he demanded to talk to him.

I told them I'd go and get him, and came back with a group of mates and they left.

Now, it was definitely nasty and could have resulted in violence, but it was over an item of clothing which has nothing to do with my sexuality, so I don't know if it's relevant. On the other hand, they definitely did seem to think that the collar implied I was into BDSM and wanted to start a fight over it.

8 Sep 09, 2:32 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

Sounds relevant enough to me. :-) and bloody scary!

Although the collar was not about you being into BDSM - they thought it was and on that basis seemed to think you deserved to be hit.

Just as an aside. I believe a heterosexual man recently won a case of homophobic harassment at work because he was experiencing the harassment anyway, even though he wasn't even gay.

De

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Edited 8 Sep 09, 2:34 PM by Degenerate

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