Posted by ladyjayne
on Thu 30 Jul 09, 5:27 AM to ladyjayne's blog.
Why did I not realise there was a webboard on ship of fools that was for people into BDSM, it's private so I've no idea what it's like, and my most recent incarnation on there has less then 50 posts so I can't join...but...
If your a member, have 50 posts and want to continue some of the topics that start off being discussed and then just result in christian bashing, why not head over there...
*counting down to 50 posts now*
| 30 Jul 09, 5:48 AM wonderer UK, 5 yrs  |
Hiya ladyjane. You're not the only one here that has a SOF identity. It would be great if you joined "Freedom and song" but the board hasn't had a lot of activity when I've been there. I think most members prefer to discuss their BDSM on here or fetlife or elsewhere. If you join it and start up (or resume) some conversations it might bring some fresh life which would be a good thing.
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ | |
| 30 Jul 09, 6:55 AM WaterDragon UK(LN), 6 yrs |
I must ask, why would a "christian" BDSM chat be any different to this one? Hugs, Irene.
Yet Dom as I am _
Still I crave the wind from your sub wings | |
| 30 Jul 09, 7:43 AM wonderer UK, 5 yrs |
My experience is that too often if you post anything remotely mentioning christianity on IC, the thread rapidly gets diverted down predictable and fruitless avenues and attracts contributions in an often derogatory tone from people with limited understanding and stereotyped views of christianity. Really interesting stuff will be lost. Someone will accuse christians who practice BDSM of being hypocritical. Several will attack creationism (as though all christians were creationists). Someone will try to turn it into a debate about the existence of God. Someone will assume christianity is all about banning fun activities. Someone will blame me for the Crusades. People will think all christians are fundamentalists. One always feels on the back foot, criticised and on the defensive and it becomes very hard to get beyond the basics and to conduct a respectful good-tempered discussion. Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ Edited 30 Jul 09, 7:44 AM by wonderer | |
| 30 Jul 09, 8:08 AM browneyedgirl UK(M), 2 yrs |
Well fancy that - I used to go on Ship of Fools a long time ago, but never really got into it despite finding it a really interesting site - maybe I should head back? In any case, my visits there long predated my ventures into fetish-land so I wouldn't have even thought to look out for BDSM folk on there! I'd be quite interested to hear what they have to say - any of them on IC as well? (By the way Wonderer - I can identify with your experiences - although I've not seen any of the discussions of Christianity on IC, it's kind of response I've had elsewhere too...) Edited 30 Jul 09, 8:09 AM by browneyedgirl | |
| 30 Jul 09, 8:15 AM wonderer UK, 5 yrs |
Here are a few recent examples. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/244099/0 http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/243613/0 http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/243525/0 http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/243585/0 and an old weblog of mine to appeal for better mannered comments: http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226776/ Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ Edited 30 Jul 09, 8:24 AM by wonderer | |
| 30 Jul 09, 9:00 AM Max_Bedroom 5 yrs |
To be fair, it is not all one way - being an atheist, I have been subject to a few stereotypical comments myself by people who think they understand me because I do not believe god... The debates, for the most part, have much more civil as of late - there were one or two posters who were needlessly provocative and rude in recent exchanges, but I think the general tone has been much more pleasant... The easy part of life is playing by the rules. The fucking hard bit is working out what the rules are. | |
| 30 Jul 09, 9:37 AM wonderer UK, 5 yrs |
I quite agree Max Bedroom, the amount of trolling hasn't been as bad recently, and you have generally been one of the more thoughtful, civil and courteous debaters. (And I'm sorry still not to have replied to your long memo.) There's no doctrinal prerequsities to joining Ship of Fools so if you fancy serious debate or jovial jollity around christianity and its various cultural manifestations, why not have a look? The forums are here http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb... and the general website is here http://shipoffools.com/index.html
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ | |
| 30 Jul 09, 9:41 AM Max_Bedroom 5 yrs |
You have mentioned it before, and it does look interesting. My big issue is do I really need something else to waste my time on? The easy part of life is playing by the rules. The fucking hard bit is working out what the rules are. | |
| 30 Jul 09, 12:34 PM ladyjayne 8 yrs |
Hi Irene, As wonderer has already said, when people mention Christianity there is often a deluge of people wishing to 'discuss' peoples faith which means often the questions they have with regards to their faith and their BDSM practises often go unanswered. Think of it (I assume) as a like minded support group, where people who sometimes wrestle with their faith and some of their desires with people who understand (for example I've not mentioned it on IC but I sometimes have huge issues with my desire for age and incest related play and how that fits with my faith as a Christian... ) Think of it more as a specific extension to IC, I don't think it was ever meant to replace it! "that artwork is rather dark" "well yes, I wasn't exactly expecting winnie the pooh!" | |
| 30 Jul 09, 6:35 PM WaterDragon UK(LN), 6 yrs |
Thank you both, Lady Jane and Wonderer, what you have said confirms my thoughts on the matter. It is a great shame you feel unsafe expressing things regarding your faith and it's ramifications here. Hugs, Irene.
Yet Dom as I am _
Still I crave the wind from your sub wings |
