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| 24 Jul 09, 12:19 AM MarkVarley  UK(PE), 7 yrs  |
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| 24 Jul 09, 12:20 AM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
Cool. Been after doing that ever since Top Gear did it with caravans. Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you? | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 12:23 AM KinkyRoly UK(OX), 3 yrs  |
You're absolutely right - as always. I'm self taught too and am still here - as are most of the people I've played with. The thing that concerns me is that I've seen a number of people come to rope bondage classes and not get the hang of it, but still believe that they have. A lot of people like the idea of suspension and if somebody tries to do suspension without getting it right, the consequences can be appalling. Some people offer dreadfully inappropriate advice on-line. It's up to the individual to do the research, learn the techniques and minimise the risks. Not everybody is able to do that. My suggestion to anybody wanting to learn suspension is to take their time and learn from a number of good practitioners. Then take a consensus view of what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately taking time to learn something properly is not the done thing these days, which is why I'm wary about this topic. | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 12:31 AM Red_Kali UK(DD), 3 yrs |
Or at least swing ball... Perfect little dream... the kind that hurts the most. | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 12:42 AM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
And you are absolutely right too. Joking apart, this is seriously f**king dangerous if you get it wrong, and there are many, many variables involved. And none of us are infallible, either. I compare it to motorcycle riding. Much joy to be had, but the risks are ever present, and major. Screw up and... Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you? Edited 24 Jul 09, 12:58 AM by Jahc99 | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 12:53 AM tiggerGlasgow UK(EH), 6 yrs |
Suspension is something I've tried on two occasions and neither for very long. The first wasn't ideal conditions and the second it was SP doing most of the work with somebody who know's their string better than he does keeping an eye on the proceedings. The only problem is that because SP doesn't feel confident enough with the wraps and lock-offs required for suspension yet, we end up in a negative feed back loop. If he's not sure, I get uneasy, the more uneasy I get the more uneasy he gets and so the vicious circle goes on. To actually be in a proper suspension for more than a matter of seconds has been a goal for almost as long as I've known that it could be done. The Esinem link will hopefully prove useful to both of us and we shall continue with the endeavours where possible. Being of the "short but rather tank-like" build I'm concerned that I'll end up almost mummified in rope before its comfortable. Ah well the quest goes on. "A life without pain has no meaning" Athrur Schopenhauer | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 1:10 AM KinkyRoly UK(OX), 3 yrs |
It doesn't need as much rope as you might imagine. If you look at a typical sex swing, the occupant is suspended using two leather straps about 15 cm wide. If they are placed correctly, it's comfortable and you can stay in it for quite a while. If you were being suspended in rope, a similar area of rope could support you equally comfortably. Obviously it's tied around your body, but so long as the strands of rope are evenly tensioned, so that the weight is nicely supported and distributed, it should be secure and comfortable.
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| 24 Jul 09, 1:35 AM tiggerGlasgow UK(EH), 6 yrs |
The problem is I find the average sex swing downright uncomfortable. I know that it doesn't take much rope for tolerances sake, what I'm saying is that the comfort factor isn't there with what I've been in so far.
"A life without pain has no meaning" Athrur Schopenhauer | |||
| 24 Jul 09, 1:42 AM MoonlightShadow BE, 6 yrs |
blow them up? err... wait, that was in 'Brainiac' what was the Top Gear approach to caravans?
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| 24 Jul 09, 1:46 AM Esinem UK(SE), 12 yrs |
There's suspension and then there's suspension. There is a big difference bewteen a Western hammock type rig and a minimalist Japanese suspension. I'd say the former is much more feasible with a heavier working load. That being said, a bit of padding can make things safer than for somebody with less fat on them than a butcher's pencil. It's all a question of what is protecting nerves, individual susceptibilities and careful rope placement. Suspension will always be RACK, not always SSC. Lifting is entirely unnecessary, or at least any involving equipment, regardless of weight if your technique is right. If you think you need a winch or block and tackle, I'd say you should be considering your technique before attempting suspension. If any of this or the linked article is news to you, please reconsider suspension until you know the risks and how to avoid them: http://www.esinem.com/Misc/Nerve%20Damage%20Part... This is NOT a complete guide and is work in progress.
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