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When will they stop dying (23)

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10 Jul 09, 9:53 PM
flake_1
UK, 3 yrs
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
Vampire_bunny wrote:
Yes, I agree, it saddens me too. And when people protest about the war when the soldiers are coming home is fucking ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? Anybody who signed up for the army in the last six years must have known what he was signing up to do. Join the British army, fight in the occupation of Afghanistan. At this point there is nobody fighting on the British side in Afghanistan who did not choose to be there. The guys who were in the military when the war started sure they were following orders, but those men will have had the opportunity to leave since, and the new recruits could have waited this one out before signing up. At some point every soldier we have out there will have been offered an escape and not taken it. That makes the soldiers fair game for protest in my opinion, because they volunteered to fight specifically in this war. I wouldn't protest them though because frankly this war has actually become a little more serious in recent years than it started out.

Problem with the war in Afghanistan is that when it started it was just the USA wanting to kill some Muslims over 9/11, fair play, blood for blood. Bomb some kids, shoot some goat herders, bring Osama Bin Laden home in little bits. But now there's the large matter of Pakistan potentially collapsing, so Britain now has to basically win an unwinnable war to stop that happening while most of the US military is dicking around in Iraq. Afghanistan is quite possibly going to be our Vietnam, depending on how Pakistan fares. Pulling the troops out could be catastrophic. Winning the war is impossible. This is why people talk about military quagmires as a very bad thing, we're in Afghanistan until we lose.

And you're a fucking idiot, it's people like you who sicken me to the pit of my stomach. Brave people voluteer to die for their country, and what do you do? sit on your arse all day reading your socialist crap telling white people how crap they are and how they should be more accommodating of ethnic minorities. You really sum up why I hate socialism so much.

I hope you're on the tube the next time one of your ethnic friends decides to show the West just how wrong it is. Just like one of my friends was only difference being he didn't believe in the shit you do

10 Jul 09, 11:55 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Great blog, R_D.

All the 'collateral damage' too. So many innocents.

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
The antidote to whinge threads...?

Edited 10 Jul 09, 11:56 PM by Jahc99

11 Jul 09, 12:28 AM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

flake_1 wrote:
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
Vampire_bunny wrote:
Yes, I agree, it saddens me too. And when people protest about the war when the soldiers are coming home is fucking ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? Anybody who signed up for the army in the last six years must have known what he was signing up to do. Join the British army, fight in the occupation of Afghanistan. At this point there is nobody fighting on the British side in Afghanistan who did not choose to be there. The guys who were in the military when the war started sure they were following orders, but those men will have had the opportunity to leave since, and the new recruits could have waited this one out before signing up. At some point every soldier we have out there will have been offered an escape and not taken it. That makes the soldiers fair game for protest in my opinion, because they volunteered to fight specifically in this war. I wouldn't protest them though because frankly this war has actually become a little more serious in recent years than it started out.

Problem with the war in Afghanistan is that when it started it was just the USA wanting to kill some Muslims over 9/11, fair play, blood for blood. Bomb some kids, shoot some goat herders, bring Osama Bin Laden home in little bits. But now there's the large matter of Pakistan potentially collapsing, so Britain now has to basically win an unwinnable war to stop that happening while most of the US military is dicking around in Iraq. Afghanistan is quite possibly going to be our Vietnam, depending on how Pakistan fares. Pulling the troops out could be catastrophic. Winning the war is impossible. This is why people talk about military quagmires as a very bad thing, we're in Afghanistan until we lose.

And you're a fucking idiot, it's people like you who sicken me to the pit of my stomach. Brave people voluteer to die for their country, and what do you do? sit on your arse all day reading your socialist crap telling white people how crap they are and how they should be more accommodating of ethnic minorities. You really sum up why I hate socialism so much.

I hope you're on the tube the next time one of your ethnic friends decides to show the West just how wrong it is. Just like one of my friends was only difference being he didn't believe in the shit you do

Quoted for posterity. And to point out for future reference just the sort of person you are.

All that is required for the triumph of evil is for Chuck Norris to change sides.

11 Jul 09, 12:40 AM
flake_1
UK, 3 yrs
fucking idiot
11 Jul 09, 1:06 AM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

flake_1 wrote:
fucking idiot

Pretty much yeah.

Specifically why you're a fucking idiot is because you went basically for the line of calling me an 'ethnic minority loving socialist', which is a sort of painfully PC expression of the sort of insult I'd expect to hear from Nick Griffin. And you did that without any comprehension of what I actually wrote.

What's socialist about what I wrote? Where do I even mention ethnic minorities?

You need to seek help, you're clearly not very bright and somebody has exploited this to fill your head with reactionary far-right bullshit. That's no way for anybody to live.

All that is required for the triumph of evil is for Chuck Norris to change sides.

Edited 11 Jul 09, 1:18 AM by Doghouse_Reilly

11 Jul 09, 5:41 AM
TheEndlessEnigma
UK(NN), 5 yrs
This makes interesting watching........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

11 Jul 09, 7:59 AM
Forsaken1
UK, 7 yrs
7 dead, 69 wounded and bought home, but the news don't tell you that bit, our boys/girls know that its a pointless war; infact it's being coined as our vietnam by them, but they are fiercely loyal to that which they represent.

Please don't forget that.

Damien

Resident play piercer at Velvet Eden
"Is oral sex a taste of things to come?"

11 Jul 09, 9:40 AM
River_Deep
UK, 6 yrs
Nice to see the non political sentiment on this weblog was ignored by those wanting to have a political/racial fight.

*shakes head and thinks of the families of those that have given thier lives*

RD

It is not what you say or do but the way you say or do it

11 Jul 09, 10:04 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

MissKimberley wrote:
Pup and I were watching the Beeb last night and saw the young lads on the news. We said to each other we're surprised no more have been killed. It's a major offensive and the number of dead compared to other (historic) wars is relatively low. I am sure it doesn't make it easier for the families though.

I do think, and I don't mean to be horrible, that you know you may be killed if you join the forces. It doesn't make it better, or right, or fair. But it is what they choose to do, and we should support them in that decision. But in a war, we must expect casualties. Wishing it doesn't happen to our loved ones doesn't change that fact, unfortunately.

I feel sorry for the parents, I sometimes wonder if we'd be better off banning young lads under 25 to go to war. They should at least have a fair shot at life as an adult for a while before enduring the hardships of war. Then again, I feel equally sorry for wives left behind with small children to take care of. In my view wars should be abolished altogether. Nothing good ever came of it...

I quite agree. And of course the number of UK service personnal killed is dwarfed by the number of "enemy" civilians killed. And 18 is far too young. No age is the right age to be killed.

I admire the heroism of those who do risk their lives for what they believe to be right. I include a far wider range of workers than the armed forces in that - there are many hazardous occupations. I think we should invest more time and money and effort in prevention. And I'm uneasy with the glorification of warfare and the trappings of warfare.

War is a great evil.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

11 Jul 09, 12:11 PM
ThedaVamp
UK, 6 yrs
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
What's socialist about what I wrote? Where do I even mention ethnic minorities?

You need to seek help, you're clearly not very bright and somebody has exploited this to fill your head with reactionary far-right bullshit. That's no way for anybody to live.

I was wondering about the chap myself...

Please check your irony levels before attempting to respond to the majority of my posts.

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