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Events without male dominants (95)

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3 Jul 09, 5:26 PM
rubbermorph
UK, 5 yrs

Got to say that I don't know of any male subs that are worried about male Tops. Known a few male Tops that can't watch a male sub being played with intimately though.

Can't say as a I know those Tops well, as any man who feels threatened by seeing another's willy is a bit silly in my opinion. But i've encountered that attitude a couple of times.

So maybe it's to save the poor Tops blushes.

In all honesty though, it's more likely that these are role play events aimed at Fem Dommes and those (male or female) that like to sub for them. It's got nothing in my opinion to do with a worry about Doms mucking up the Ladies head space or anything else... it just doesn't fit in with that particular role play.

There are plenty of mixed role play events. If there's a lack of male Dominant events, as someone else said, perhaps it's because they don't organise them?

3 Jul 09, 5:38 PM
Domlex
UK(B), 8 yrs

TheFalconer wrote:
PrinceCaspian wrote:
Again I've never been to a exclusively and purposefully "maledom" event so I can't judge as to the difference between the two.

Do such things even happen in the UK?

If they do the subbie and myself wouldn't mind tying going!

Although doesn't the whole idea of excluding one group, be it Maledom, femdom etc, go against the liberal and tolerant nature of BDSM?

3 Jul 09, 5:41 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Domlex wrote:

Although doesn't the whole idea of excluding one group, be it Maledom, femdom etc, go against the liberal and tolerant nature of BDSM?

I don't think so, I think it's good if the different dynamics have their own special events, a day in the sun, so to speak, as well as all getting together to mingle.

The delights of 'Coven' nights, where I have served a bunch of femdoms, are great. So trying to put a male dom equivalent together.... http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/238958/0

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
The antidote to whinge threads...?

Edited 3 Jul 09, 5:43 PM by Jahc99

3 Jul 09, 5:43 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

rubbermorph wrote:
There are plenty of mixed role play events. If there's a lack of male Dominant events, as someone else said, perhaps it's because they don't organise them?

I must admit, it hadn't really crossed my mind to start organising structured events that excluded female dominants.

Regards,

Tanos

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3 Jul 09, 5:47 PM
TheFalconer
UK(S), 6 yrs

Domlex wrote:
TheFalconer wrote:
PrinceCaspian wrote:
Again I've never been to a exclusively and purposefully "maledom" event so I can't judge as to the difference between the two.

Do such things even happen in the UK?

If they do the subbie and myself wouldn't mind tying going!

I think that if anyone did setup such an event it would be very different to the kind of femdom events which are being talked about, due to the differences in approach which have been talked about in this thread. In fact I'd expect they'd have to be organised on "bring your own sub" grounds (I was going to say couples only but that would exclude poly people of course).

Domlex wrote:
Although doesn't the whole idea of excluding one group, be it Maledom, femdom etc, go against the liberal and tolerant nature of BDSM?

No. The scene is surely richer if it can accommodate varying types of events.

"Morality, like art, means drawing a line someplace." - Oscar Wilde

3 Jul 09, 6:01 PM
PrinceCaspian
UK(SE), 6 yrs

Domlex wrote:
TheFalconer wrote:
PrinceCaspian wrote:
Again I've never been to a exclusively and purposefully "maledom" event so I can't judge as to the difference between the two.

Do such things even happen in the UK?

If they do the subbie and myself wouldn't mind tying going!

Although doesn't the whole idea of excluding one group, be it Maledom, femdom etc, go against the liberal and tolerant nature of BDSM?

I don't know, I would consider it liberal and tolerant to let folks get up to whatever they please, be it only one lot or not.

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde

3 Jul 09, 6:01 PM
Domlex
UK(B), 8 yrs

Tanos wrote:
PrinceCaspian wrote:
you can't trust a lot of male dominants not to interfere with female dominants.

And you can't trust a lot of male submissives to be pests either, and empirically, most of the pests in clubs present as submissives rather than dominants. And really, a pest-free environment is something that has to be dealt with at the level of the individual.

I cannot really recollect when I last saw a Maledom interfering with either a femdom or femsub. I'm sure it must happen. Although I have pestered by femsubs in the past which whilst a little annoying but it does stroke the ego.

malesubs do seem to be the main culprits, even bothering my subbie (as she is rather statuseque).

The most off putting bit about club events is when your having a scene and you look up from what your doing and there's a naked man fiddling with himself.

Perhaps there should be no malesub events? Sorry chaps.

3 Jul 09, 6:04 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Tanos wrote:
(I have a vested interest in understanding how particular combinations of types of people rub each other up the wrong way at events :) )

At the risk of being obvious (and of resorting to atrocious stereotype), I don't think that what one gets in Scene clubs is very far removed from the way civilians behave.

Principally, the competition is between members of the same sex, and generally thare is more overt competition between men than there is between women, and one form that this can take is:

Dom Man: 'Sub men are not strong enough to master a woman'.

Sub Man: 'Dom men are not strong enough to cope with the workoad/pain'.

Meanwhile the women compliment each other's shoes, haircuts, outfits etc, dispair/sympathise about the general disposition of men, and then bitch like mad when any third party passes out of earshot.

Like I said, massive generalisation, and if I'd not been promoting events for 20 years, I wouldn't dare make it, and I'm only writing from personal observation.

If you take two blokes out of the same grade at the same office, irrespective of sexuality, and dress one up in a Ruritanian officer's uniform, and the other in chains and a collar, and then stick them in the same room, preferably with some women (I'm sorry about all this presumed heterosexuality), then whatever friction there might have been anyway is going to be exacurbated.

Not a reason not to do it, just something that it's wise to bear in mind.

Free film about The London Corporal Punishment School can be seen at http://www.the-firm.org/Cinema.htm

3 Jul 09, 6:06 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Tanos wrote:
I must admit, it hadn't really crossed my mind to start organising structured events that excluded female dominants.

I think The Fortress had evenings especially for both, though I don't know that they particularly excluded anyone.

Free film about The London Corporal Punishment School can be seen at http://www.the-firm.org/Cinema.htm

3 Jul 09, 6:09 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Tanos wrote:
wonderer wrote:
I guess Female Dominants in a general BDSM event find themselves in a minority among females and a minority among dominants. Perhaps they quite like the idea of not being in a minority for some events.

The interesting thing is that these female dominant only events tend to involve some organised D/s structure (eg a hunt, a POW camp, a set of protocols, a micronation in the Czech Republic) ...

(and later described by someone else as "High Protocol")

That is a very interesting observation.

Following a wonderful ad hoc chat yesterday I think I had a bit more insight into both my mindset and hers. Perhaps it applies to others.

I think at a deep level my desire to submit to a Woman comes from a very high view of Womanhood, both in its present state and as in some sense the predominant gender of the Future. I'm not a female supremacist, but do believe that changes in societies and economies mean that skills and inclinations which are biologically more common in Women should (and must and will) prevail in the future, and the sooner the better if we're going to avoid completely destroying our environment.

I have great friends on IC of a huge variety including MmFf (such overly simplistic categories), (and mainly Ff if I'm honest), but the idea of a Fm event has an especial appeal because of its symbolism.

I don't think I can save the planet by licking a Woman's feet, or being thrashed by Her, but I do think there's a meaningful symbolism in acknowledging the value of Womanhood.

(And oddly for me, I've gone into some kind of capitalisation protocol)

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

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