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3 Jul 09, 3:56 PM
PrinceCaspian
UK(SE), 6 yrs

Tanos wrote:
Events without male dominants

Two (1 and 2) events recently have stressed that only female dominants are to be involved, and there are others out there. The OWK in particular has a no male dominants rule.

Is there something about male dominants being around that interferes with female dominance?

Regards,

Tanos

I doubt male dominance interferes with female dominance, but you can't trust a lot of male dominants not to interfere with female dominants.

If these events are geared to be a femdom environment it would make sense that male doms shouldn't be there unless they are willing to bottom or sub to at least one woman there (and NOT try and top or dom anyone)

So basically not be dominant males in that context. and therefore no male dominants are there. :)

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde

3 Jul 09, 3:58 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

wonderer wrote:
I guess Female Dominants in a general BDSM event find themselves in a minority among females and a minority among dominants. Perhaps they quite like the idea of not being in a minority for some events.

The interesting thing is that these female dominant only events tend to involve some organised D/s structure (eg a hunt, a POW camp, a set of protocols, a micronation in the Czech Republic) rather than being like the unstructured club environments that tend to allow male and female dominants.

To me, that points to some kind of intuitive recognition of masculine vs feminine styles of dominance, and the desire to create an event with a consistent atmosphere.

Either that or as Ms_Valentine suggests, it messes around with some male submissives' headspaces.

Regards,

Tanos

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Edited 3 Jul 09, 3:59 PM by Tanos

3 Jul 09, 4:01 PM
PrinceCaspian
UK(SE), 6 yrs

Bubbles_2 wrote:
A lot of male doms can be very disparaging to/about male subs. It doesn't bother me but i can see it causing a certain amount of discomfort for some people...

Good point, I didn't think of that as when I do choose to sub and I think any male domly types might be judging me as less of a man or any such bollocks for it, I just take a quick look at them then me and remind myself who the real man is :)

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde

3 Jul 09, 4:01 PM
ToakReon*
UK(RH), 12 yrs

Tanos wrote:
Events without male dominants

Two (1 and 2) events recently have stressed that only female dominants are to be involved, and there are others out there. The OWK in particular has a no male dominants rule.

Is there something about male dominants being around that interferes with female dominance?

Regards,

Tanos

Probably not - but I see why these events do it. Make an event open to male dominants with the opportunity of hunting down girls and you'll get SWAMPED with male dominants.

Toak

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3 Jul 09, 4:02 PM
lisal
8 yrs
Tanos wrote:

Either that or as Ms_Valentine suggests, it messes around with some male submissives' headspaces.

Regards,

Tanos

More inclined to this alternative speaking as a male sub. Not sure it messes with my headpace - it's more that I don't have any desire at all to be submissive to a male so would not want to be put into a situation where there were male dominants around and (possibly) involved in some sort of play

As an aside I greatly prefer one on one anyway so events/clubs have never appealed to me

Edited 3 Jul 09, 4:03 PM by lisal

3 Jul 09, 4:05 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

PrinceCaspian wrote:
you can't trust a lot of male dominants not to interfere with female dominants.

And you can't trust a lot of male submissives to be pests either, and empirically, most of the pests in clubs present as submissives rather than dominants. And really, a pest-free environment is something that has to be dealt with at the level of the individual.

I doubt male dominance interferes with female dominance ...

If these events are geared to be a femdom environment it would make sense that male doms shouldn't be there unless they are willing to bottom or sub to at least one woman there

Well, a mixed dominant environment wouldn't be a female dominant environment, so just being there would interfere with it being an environment where you aren't there :)

But the very idea of "a femdom environment" connects to this idea of differing masculine and feminine styles of dominance or event atmospheres, doesn't it?

Regards,

Tanos

www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos

3 Jul 09, 4:06 PM
PrinceCaspian
UK(SE), 6 yrs

Tanos wrote:
wonderer wrote:
I guess Female Dominants in a general BDSM event find themselves in a minority among females and a minority among dominants. Perhaps they quite like the idea of not being in a minority for some events.

The interesting thing is that these female dominant only events tend to involve some organised D/s structure (eg a hunt, a POW camp, a set of protocols, a micronation in the Czech Republic) rather than being like the unstructured club environments that tend to allow male and female dominants.

To me, that points to some kind of intuitive recognition of masculine vs feminine styles of dominance, and the desire to create an event with a consistent atmosphere.

Oooh so many good points, I've noticed lots of the Femdom events seem to be very high protocol compared to say a play party where the guys are dom and the girls are sub. I guess I haven't been to an formal exclusively maledom event so I can't judge how much or little protocol is used.

I personally don't like this pervasion of protocol, as generally if I do go to an event like this it's as the bottom/sub of one woman not the whole bloody lot.

It would be nice if there were some femdom events that were a little more relaxed in that area.

ps I think I've replied too much.

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde

3 Jul 09, 4:10 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

lisal wrote:
More inclined to this alternative speaking as a male sub. Not sure it messes with my headpace - it's more that I don't have any desire at all to be submissive to a male so would not want to be put into a situation where there were male dominants around and (possibly) involved in some sort of play

So that's analogous to swingers clubs* where bisexual men are discouraged because they freak other guys out? You're ok with other male subs (analogous to other straight male swingers), because they're not going to dom/top you, but male doms would be a problem?

(* The subset of swinger's clubs that are like this. Other clubs are available of course.)

Regards,

Tanos

www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos

Edited 3 Jul 09, 5:10 PM by Tanos

3 Jul 09, 4:13 PM
lisal
8 yrs
Tanos wrote:
lisal wrote:
More inclined to this alternative speaking as a male sub. Not sure it messes with my headpace - it's more that I don't have any desire at all to be submissive to a male so would not want to be put into a situation where there were male dominants around and (possibly) involved in some sort of play

So that's analogous to swinger's clubs where bisexual men are discouraged because they freak other guys out? You're ok with other male subs (analogous to other straight male swingers), because they're not going to dom/top you, but male doms would be a problem?

Regards,

Tanos

To an extent yes - I don't know that much about swingers clubs I am afraid

:) :)

But I wouldn't use language like "freaking me out". Male doms just don't work for me at all - I am from a strictly fem domme place and like it that way. I have no interest at all in submitting to a man so don't want to be in a place where that could happen - or someone might attempt it (more to the point)

Edited 3 Jul 09, 4:16 PM by lisal

3 Jul 09, 4:14 PM
PrinceCaspian
UK(SE), 6 yrs

Tanos wrote:
most of the pests in clubs present as submissives rather than dominants.

an opinion I'm not sure I agree with. Certainly coming up asking to lick someone's feet can be annoying but approaching them and attempting to assert dominance either physically or verbally without prior introduction is much worse.

Tanos wrote:
PrinceCaspian wrote:
you can't trust a lot of male dominants not to interfere with female dominants.

And you can't trust a lot of male submissives to be pests either, and empirically, most of the pests in clubs present as submissives rather than dominants. And really, a pest-free environment is something that has to be dealt with at the level of the individual.

I doubt male dominance interferes with female dominance ...

If these events are geared to be a femdom environment it would make sense that male doms shouldn't be there unless they are willing to bottom or sub to at least one woman there

Well, a mixed dominant environment wouldn't be a female dominant environment, so just being there would interfere with it being an environment where you aren't there :)

But the very idea of "a femdom environment" connects to this idea of differing masculine and feminine styles of dominance or event atmospheres, doesn't it?

Regards,

Tanos

ok last one...

The only difference that's essential for it to be a "femdom environment" is the dominants lack of cocks (no ladies your strap-on doesn't count)

I don't think the style of the event being extreme (ie protocol or d/s) necessarily infers that the styles of the individual dommes is that different to their dom counterparts. It might have more to do with the group mentality or the idea of (loose) community.

or it might just be necessary to keep the "pests" as you put it in check.

ps Again I've never been to a exclusively and purposefully "maledom" event so I can't judge as to the difference between the two.

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde

Edited 3 Jul 09, 4:17 PM by PrinceCaspian

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