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How old is too old? (92)

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4 Jul 09, 6:53 PM
IndelibleMarker
UK(E), 6 yrs


JudyInDsGuise wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:

Actually yes, I would still think it was a fair question from the OP because I think any question is a fair question because they are trying to learn.

I personally think it is important to be able to discuss any taboo in order for society to progress because that is how change occurs. Pushing something under the rug does not help anyone.

Very fat/very short/very tall/very disabled or even just a silly hat in the street all have the potential to make people look twice - or mentally force themselves not to look at all. I've experienced people "looking twice" and also actively forcing themselves not to look at all; so I know how it feels.

But the only thing that needs changing is the OP's mindset, and thus far she's shown no evidence of wanting to do that. It's not the responsibility of the people having their fun to change her mind, no matter how squicked she is.

If someone asks me why I do what I do, my response will depend almost entirely on why they're asking and the way they ask. Telling me I'm wrong because *they* think I am, and expecting me to justify myself to them for no other reason than they want to let me know just how "wrong" they think I am, usually results in their question not being answered.

judy

I agree with you 100% here. I was discussing this with TheKey in our front room earlier today and my only response to that was... "Well, she wasn't actually saying it to the lady herself... She was asking the IC board their opinions". I think that takes a little of the edge off it for me and as I've mentioned - I respect the honesty. In the end though - there clearly is no age - anyone with an ounce on sense should see that because everyone ages at different rates. People have back injuries and all sorts of limb and joint problems and would need to "settle down" at all sorts of different ages. Putting an age on it is just impossible, if not ludicrous.

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4 Jul 09, 7:02 PM
TheKey
UK(N), 4 yrs
I just read through this entire thread and I actually didn't find many posts that I considered to be rude to the OP. The general consensus seems to be the same - it's none of your business, which is a fair answer to the question.

Yes, it's not unnatural to look twice at something you don't see in your everyday life and we're kidding ourselves if we don't admit that. Someone older than usual, someone extra large bulging out of their latex, someone in a wheelchair, even a particularly good looking person. (It doesn't necessarily mean I'm disgusted by these things, just that I - and most likely you too - specifically notice them.)

I respect those who are sensible enough to recognise that people aren't all the same and that we notice this, but I don't respect those who are patronising to others, intentionally or not. I also don't respect people who are implying they might have some sort of say in other peoples' lives because they are outside what we are used to.

The lower 18 limit is there because there has to be a line somewhere and this is what has been decided. At 18 most of the bell curve are educated and mature enough to start being able to live their own lives and look after themselves. All parts of most of their brains have developed (some important parts don't develop until teenage years) to equip them to deal with life on their own. Yes there will be younger people who can do the same, but there are just far too many people and variables to decide on a case by case basis, so we protect as many as we can. No matter where the line is, people younger will try to be involved.

After 18 we're judged to be mature enough to make our own decisions, look after ourselves until a doctor or the law takes those decisions away from us. There's no upper limit and there's no need for one as it is purely about maturity. There are medically and mentally vulnerable people of all ages and there are different factions in place to help them already.

A fair answer to this question is that it's just none of our business whether or not we think she should calm down, we can't know enough about her life to make such a decision. If you'd like to start a discussion on whether or not people in the scene still feel uncomfortable about taboos, then you'll need to word it differently.

IndelibleMarker wrote:
I was discussing this with TheKey in our front room earlier today and my only response to that was... "Well, she wasn't actually saying it to the lady herself... She was asking the IC board their opinions". I think that takes a little of the edge off it for me and as I've mentioned - I respect the honesty.

My response to this was to reword the OP to:

Recently while out at a friends private party I met a very nice young man of 23. We got chatting, as you do, and he told me he liked dominating girls. (I won't go into details but one was using a particularly nasty cane) I felt that it was a little strange for someone his age to take part in something that's so extreme when it's unlikely he has very much experience at 23. I was worried about him hurting himself or someone else. I'm not saying he should stop doing what he enjoys but maybe calm it down a little until he's older and understand his own limits better. At what age do you think you should be allowed to do extreme things like fear play if at all or is it just me?!

Sounds patronising now, even if you're not telling the person directly. This reword is patronising to all the young people that read it, and the original OP is patronising to any older people that read it.

Edited 4 Jul 09, 7:15 PM by TheKey

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