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30 Jun 09, 8:58 PM
x_Thunder_x
UK(E), 9 yrs



fuschia wrote:
Seems it's easy to be a dominant when it doesn't matter, but in anything important, the sub has acted at their own behest!

But then as your friend said. You never did understand D/s.

Look it started out as a birthday present - no "branding of submissive" - no demands by me.

I repeatedly asked "are you sure" even though the design was neutral regarding names. The response was always the same.

Had one gone to another tattooist it might have been 10 10 weeks earlier but this one had been personally recommended to her

She knows she was asked a week before if she wanted to postpone it to be absolutely sure - she said no she wanted to go ahead

The tattoo was a birthday present NOT some form of branding

^Thunder^
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30 Jun 09, 8:59 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 5 yrs
fuschia wrote:
x_Thunder_x wrote:
If, come May the Dominant asks the submissive id she is sure and she again gives the same reply as you give

If she then has the tattoo but because of events a couple of weeks later they split, surely the response from the submissive re her birthday present still is relevant

But the submissive, of course, in going ahead, would be doing it as a confirmation of her commitment... and clearly in the dark about what was going on in the dominant's head... because as you've admitted, you already knew that the relationship was doomed.. and ended it two weeks later.

I find that pretty unforgiveable.

Hence the discussion.

I sincerely hope anyone else purporting to be a dom who found themselves in that situation would have the courage and ethics to come clean about their real feelings, before the tattoo went ahead.

And also, as you can see, memories are long, and I very much hope that this time round, you won't be able to cover your tracks and start again later on without your previous record and activities being open to scrutiny.

I think ive read a response differently to you..... or maybe ive walked into a thread which really wasnt asking a question but was merely looking to take a swipe at someone????

It also reads like you think submissives are complete idiots that are unable to make up their own minds, and i most certainly dont know many like that.....

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~

30 Jun 09, 9:03 PM
x_Thunder_x
UK(E), 9 yrs



selenie wrote:
fuschia wrote:
x_Thunder_x wrote:
If, come May the Dominant asks the submissive id she is sure and she again gives the same reply as you give

If she then has the tattoo but because of events a couple of weeks later they split, surely the response from the submissive re her birthday present still is relevant

But the submissive, of course, in going ahead, would be doing it as a confirmation of her commitment... and clearly in the dark about what was going on in the dominant's head... because as you've admitted, you already knew that the relationship was doomed.. and ended it two weeks later.

I find that pretty unforgiveable.

Hence the discussion.

I sincerely hope anyone else purporting to be a dom who found themselves in that situation would have the courage and ethics to come clean about their real feelings, before the tattoo went ahead.

I pretty much agree with everything Fuschia has written here... A relationship doesn't just break up in two weeks. Clearly something was going wrong and you knew this in the back of your mind yet you didn't suggest she reconsider the tattoo and get something else, or even postpone it - If she wanted a tattoo done she could have gotten something she wanted, something for her.

Back on topic:- Master and I have discussed a tattoo for myself - mostly because I love His tattoo and would love a feminine varient of His... But we both agree that having a tattoo with someone's name on it would be stupid and tacky - the only exception for me would be to get a tattoo with my brother's name/date of birth/death.

At the end of the day the only thing that is certain in life is death and taxes...

See my response as you were typing this. I suggested postponing - the design was one she wanted having found the flower on the net and the tattooist used this to design the tattoo - no pressure was put on her for the tattoo or the design

Having a 3 way relationship is not easy and things move fast (I'm not going to be drawn out as to reasons - nor will the other 2)

^Thunder^
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30 Jun 09, 9:05 PM
just_iana
UK(SS), 6 yrs
I have a fantasy/desire about a body modification, nothing extreme by IC standards, but extreme for me.

Daddy knows, we talk about it, and we talk about it happening one day. Maybe it will, maybe it won't - but..

if we get to the point (in a zillion years) where the time is right for us (i think ) that we are in a commited relationship (i think) that he has collared me and made his ownership of me something he publically discusses...

if at that stage he said, are you sure you want this...do you seriously expect a submissive girl to say no? i think i would be leaping about saying yes, yes, yes, yes please.

Now, if i knew he didnt want it, had any vague doubt that it wasnt right, that we werent indeed in the relationship i thought us to be, then would i answer the same, i doubt it very very much

the very very least he should do is delay the date to give him the time to be damn certain.

Of course a relationships can fail, god knows how many of us have mortgages we agreed to thinking we would share the burden!!

we have reminders of our past in many various forms, but to knowingly allow someone to chose a modification that has a significance , when you yourself doubtthe significance must surely seem to be wrong

Edited 30 Jun 09, 9:08 PM by just_iana

30 Jun 09, 9:08 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 5 yrs
just_iana wrote:
I have a fantasy/desire about a mody modification, nothing extreme by IC standards, but extreme for me.

what body mod is it?

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~

30 Jun 09, 9:15 PM
rubberesque
UK(W), 4 yrs

x_Thunder_x wrote:

See my response as you were typing this. I suggested postponing - the design was one she wanted having found the flower on the net and the tattooist used this to design the tattoo - no pressure was put on her for the tattoo or the design

Having a 3 way relationship is not easy and things move fast (I'm not going to be drawn out as to reasons - nor will the other 2)

You say that a three way relationship is not easy and things move fast as if I have no idea what a threeway relationship is like, I've had a couple of these myself and know what it is like.

If I KNEW full well that I had doubts about the relationship with one of the three people in the relationship I would NO WAY, EVER let them get a permanent body modification that I knew they would look at and think of me every single time they saw it plastered on their body!

Hell, If I had doubts about a relationship lasting with a person in just a regular monogamous relationship I wouldn't let them get a body modification that they would constantly have to look at for the next few years or have to dish out more money to have it removed!

I wanna be great like Elvis, without the tassels!

30 Jun 09, 9:26 PM
x_Pan_x
UK(E), 8 yrs

fuschia wrote:
Permanent marks

Recent events have thrown into relief the issues around permanent marks (tattoos and branding)

Would you ask this of your sub/slave? Would you agree to it for your dominant?

What responsibilities lie on both sides?

How would you feel if you were dumped and the marks were there forever as a reminder?

Okay, without getting into the rather sordid washing dirty linen in pubic aspect of this thread...

I don't like tattoos. I know some people think they're beautiful and gorgeous and all that stuff - I think, well I've seen what tattoos look like on the bodies of old people when they've run and twisted and the colours have bled. People with tattoos may look amazing now, but there's nothing going to stop them looking like a melted Marvel Comic book in their seventies. So yuck, yuck no, I wouldn't ever impose something like a tattoo on my submissive.

Permanent collars or bracelets that can only be removed by a blacksmith and a hacksaw is the direction I lean in.

For me the ephemeral nature of bruising is a wonderful improvisational marking alternative. I like to keep my submissive permanently marked in this way, with the added joy of finding new ways of reiterating the markings at regular intervals.

Once a tattoo is done, well it's done. Bit dull really.

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30 Jun 09, 9:52 PM
empathic_metamorph
UK(DN), 5 yrs
I asked for every mark made permanently on my body.

I wanted and needed those marks, the scars, the brand, the cutting, the piercings. They were a map of our journey visible on my body.

When He engraved His design into my shoulder to honour our collaring, it was the most wonderful thing ever. It still sits high and proud on my tanned skin and has become an extremely erotic errogenous zone, a lovely by product.

And even though I no longer wear His collar (on the outside), that symbol is engraved forever into my back. No one can ever take that away.

"Patience", Chris Parker's advice and my mantra

30 Jun 09, 10:12 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs

fuschia wrote:
Permanent marks

Recent events have thrown into relief the issues around permanent marks (tattoos and branding)

Would you ask this of your sub/slave? Would you agree to it for your dominant?

What responsibilities lie on both sides?

How would you feel if you were dumped and the marks were there forever as a reminder?

I hate the tattoo that I choose for myself after only a few years.

I'm glad I didn't get my ex's military number tattood on me. I'd have had to have looked at it every day and been reminded of the scumbag and everything that I hated about our relationship.

Don't do it. I'm now having to save up a large chunk of money to get rid of a tattoo that I thought I would love forever. In reality I hated it after only a year or so. Thank god it's on my back so I don't have to look at it.

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Edited 30 Jun 09, 10:16 PM by ConsciousnessJunkie

30 Jun 09, 10:53 PM
Painpet
UK(CB), 3 yrs
I'll be getting a tattoo done next year, we both will, we will go together and have it done and I sooooo can't wait, one of the ones I am having will incorporate the owned female symbol, the other is still been designed by Sir and it's one that will mean something to us both and again we will both have it done.

We have talked about it at length and for us it feels right, as far as we are concerned we have met the other half to ourselves so we have no worries in having something put on our bodies that will show his ownership of me and our love for each other.

If I was ever dumped? I honestly with hand on heart and for the first time in my life can say I really don't ever see that happening, what we have can't just fade or disappear, all I can see is it growing and flourishing as time goes on. To answer you question though, if it did happen i'd have something beautiful on my body that someone I had loved had put there and who gave me amazing feelings and memories so would be proud to have it and never regret it:-)

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