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| 30 Jun 09, 4:45 PM spirifer UK, 6 yrs  |
Yes, sorry, I wasn't criticising your post - it just wasn't clear that there'd even been a rape trial. The article could read as if the matter went straight from allegation, and then withdrawal of the allegation, to the perverting the course of justice trial.
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| 30 Jun 09, 5:05 PM whipswich3 3 yrs  |
I think that is what happened. Once the complainant has walked into a police station, and an allegation has been made to the police, that is when the offence of perverting the course of justice occured. To make an allegation of any offence, and then to withdraw it opens you up to prosecution.
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| 30 Jun 09, 8:18 PM DavetheButcher UK(M), 5 yrs |
Personally, I'd take a blunt instrument to the twisted bitch, and I'm not talking in a sexual manner. All sexually based trials should have reporting restrictions placed upon them until the outcome. If it's not guilty, anonimity abounds, if the outcome is one of guilt then a plane should be hired to fly over the rapists hometown proclaiming their guilt, then they should dragged behind a pick-up truck along a cobbled road like the KKK used to do, and no, before any one says anything I'm not advocating racism, just a punishment to fit the crime. I know many rape victims, a few rapists that slipped the net and a couple of poor bastards who were labelled as rapists before their innocence was established without any hint of guilt. All ends of the spectrum, and surprisingly it's the actual victims that seem to handle things better. The false claim victims are scared witless of it ever coming out and the twats that got away, imprisoned in their own minds just waiting for the knock on the door they dread. Fuck Yeah. | ||||
| 30 Jun 09, 8:40 PM Diablos_patience UK, 5 yrs |
How can you slag off the journalism? This bit... "Some very uninhibited sex indeed took place between them. It was a very experimental night where pretty much anything went."
Did strange and wonderful things to me ~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~ | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 3:46 PM Romola UK, 7 yrs |
There's nothing in the report that says she went to the police herself, just that she'd told her friends and parents, who called the police in. The fact that he was released after 20 odd hours implies that she didn't stick with the allegation once asked by the police. Making the allegation to friends and parents is a spiteful, bitchy thing to do, and could have horrible repercussions for the man. At least the fact that she's standing trial means that he has some public vindication. I still don't think it warrants a life sentence, or,indeed, a blunt instrument. It's only a weblog | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 4:09 PM emark UK, 8 yrs |
Found guilty: http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/glouceste...
Who say:
I'm guess that the botched sentence in the original article is meant to be "Prosecutor Lisa Hennessy played the jury part of Knowles' video interview with police." It then goes on to say:
It's unclear if he was arrested before or after she was told this to the police, but nonetheless it seems she made the claim to the police. Rightly or wrongly, this is a serious crime - Maxine Carr got three and a half years for providing a false alibi for Ian Huntley, even though the jury believed her when she said she had no idea he was guilty. (I presume Mr Warren's fingerprints are now being kept on the national database as a result, despite being completely innocent...) Sign the statement against criminalisation of possession "extreme" images. Petition against plans to criminalise sexual cartoons appearing to depict anyone under 18. | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 5:37 PM Anarchtea UK(RM), 8 yrs |
Best quote:
Whoops, sorry, complete accident. A bit like dropping your toast or tripping on a loose paving slab. Can't we clone Diana and kill her again? Then these rags might give up trying to report on anything else. If there were two of you, which one would win? | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 6:07 PM grahamm  UK, 11 yrs |
Well, according to the Daily Telegraph "Women who dress provocatively more likely to be raped" according to scientists. However, according to this blog the "scientist" is an MSc student, the research quoted is from her *unfinished* dissertation and, oh, by they way, they have *completely* misinterpreted and misrepresented her findings which haven't said anyting of the sort! Edited 4 Jul 09, 6:08 PM by grahamm | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 7:40 PM LadyLibidienne UK(CB), 8 yrs |
Say again? In English this time, please. [/quote] Yes I was trying to make sense of that as well. Really bad English "A heart is not judged by how much it loves but by how much it is loved" Wizard of Oz to the Tinman You give little when you give of your possessions. It is when you give of yourself that you truly give Kahlil Gibran, The Prophet | ||||
| 4 Jul 09, 8:17 PM Tanos UK(M), 14 yrs   |
That badscience.net blog is bad journalism This is the real Telegraph story, and it includes a lot more detail than the press release. See how different it is to the straw man account of the story that the guy from the Guardian who wrote the badscience piece responded to. eg the real Telegraph story agrees with the student's stuff about drunkeness reducing the risk of being raped. Regards, Tanos www.tanos.org.uk |
