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| 29 Jun 09, 4:10 PM wonderer UK, 5 yrs |
In which case, it's not cultural expoeriences which lead to killing they're against; it's only when someone enjoys it in a sexual or something-like-sexual way that it's deemed reprehensible and morally repugnant?
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/ | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:10 PM mr_Hate 4 yrs |
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanner_case It's a very good thing to be aware of, as it does have big implications to the UK BDSM scene | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:11 PM El_Presidente UK(G), 4 yrs |
This is the background. It was a case where some men went to prison for engaging in consensual SM.
"If you've got a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul." | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:12 PM El_Presidente UK(G), 4 yrs |
Eeeeexactly. I can't think of any other explanation - can you? "If you've got a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul." | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:18 PM spirifer UK, 6 yrs |
Nope - which was exactly the reason for starting this thread. The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation - Pierre Trudeau | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:25 PM mr_Hate 4 yrs |
Again, if they could, then they would also extend it to horror films, as they have done in the past. However that's now difficult to prove and can't be easily banned. But sex is a huge trigger for the media and people, so it allows them to target a part of what they hate. | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:29 PM massado200 UK(LS), 8 yrs |
Of course it never seems to occure to folk that the excuse "we did it because we saw" a film, video computer game or what ever. Could be an invention trotted out after having been banged to rights, in the hope of a lighter sentance. NO! people would not stoop so low? | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:47 PM mr_Hate 4 yrs |
Indeed - it's possible to use this to reduce the charge of murder to that of manslaughter; which has a much leaner sentence. | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 4:58 PM prettyname UK(NW), 11 yrs |
There will always be murderers. They've been around for thousands of years, way before any film, picture, song etc etc etc. The writers who write the stories, the scripts, the plays, the films, the images, those who act in them, produce them, go to watch them, generally enjoy them for what they are else there'd be a lot more carnage going on every time a film was released. There's a very small thing called 'self responsibility' that gets left out in the system we have, where there is always someone else to blame. Banning the above isn't going to stop a murderer from murdering. If he has a mind that wants to kill in such a cold and calculated way, the chances are he'll do it one way or another, just as all those who murdered before the camera was ever invented had done. Banning only gives them an excuse to do it with a greater chance of getting away with it, by validating an 'it wasn't my fault' clause. You want to tell the victims mother 'it wasn't their fault?' That it was a writers? An actors? A directors? A producers? All innocent people, yet it's their fault and not the scum that held the victim down and actually poured petrol down his throat and lit it? Seriously. The day people start having to take responsibility for their own actions and not get away with it is the day some might actually think twice about 'not' doing it. ~“Nothing is ever the same as they said it was. It's what I've never seen before that I recognise.” Diane Arbus~ | |||
| 29 Jun 09, 5:05 PM fluffy_welsh_angel UK(DN), 5 yrs |
What about barbed wire wrestling matches, C4 explosives, kendo sticks, ladders......maybe Pro wrestling needs banning too? Seriously OP, are you really for the banning of horror movies? I watch them for entertainment, romantic comedies bore me, as do many other genres. But then thinking about it, should we ban 'romcom' movies for fear that I will suddenly get the urge to go out and kiss a stranger which in turn may get me up on a sexual assault charge? There is IMO no connection between movies/video games/music and making people kill. People kill because they want to regardless of just watching Hostel etc. Its a crock, they want something to limit the guilt therefore the movies/god/mickey mouse told them to do it. pfft! Mew |