What does Ownership mean? (34)

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Of course, you can have those things mentioned above without ownership, can't you.

Well, I have have at any rate. Ownership of the person as a human being is different to being in possession of all their rights.

24/7 subs and slaves can and do live similar lives, it is only the concept of 'ownership' which separates them.

I quite agree with this. To be the term ownership is about as committed as saying you are married. Something that is supposed to happen once in your lifetime.

However I may misunderstand as there is alot I don't understand / agree with about the whole slave thing but I thought it might add a balanced point of view to those who think it happens in a month.

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I used to happily use terms such as 'slave' and 'owner', nowadays I am less comfortable with their use in relation to my own situation. This has happened as I have come out of the realm of roleplay and into the realm of real life living. I do not value one above the other in terms of ways to do D/s. I think they both have a lot to offer in different ways. However, whilst I was still roleplaying I had less awareness of what I was actually doing. In fact I probably would have been insulted in the later years if someone had referred to my lifestyle as such. It is only now, looking at it from a different place that I can see the differences in what I did then and what I am doing now.

It's also opened my eyes to a whole new world of people who live this as an inherent part of daily life rather than as a roleplay and I can also see that there are many people who have a deeper level of submission than I do in my life and a very few who actually live as owned property in the dictionary definition style, by which I mean living as a slave would have lived with no human rights whatsoever.

What I am beginning to feel is that there are different possible definitions around the word 'owner'. It's an emotive word and for many the concept is very arousing. I know it is for me! I don't regret the times that I used it more casually. It served it's purpose of heightening the intensity of the role play, making it more exciting and giving us D/s roles which we enjoyed.

However, now that I feel I no longer roleplay I feel I need to look to the other definition - that of people who live this way day to day. The 24/7 folk. What I find when I explore this area more carefully is that ownership in this context is something very very serious. It's a genuine relinquishing of one's human rights and a choice to live in consensual slavery. It feels less titillating and exciting and more frightening. I'm not even sure if it's something I would want.

I used to say I was in a 24/7 M/s relationship and owned by my Mistress. Nowadays I say that I'm in a D/s relationship with an ongoing dynamic. I will sometimes refer to it as 24/7, but I know some don't agree as we don't live together and I recognise their reservations. So my relationship has actually gone further than I've ever gone before, I live D/s day to day. However, the labels I now use sound a lot less dramatic than the ones I used to favour!

The short answer to all this is that it's a matter of perspective. Ownership looks and feels different depending on where you are standing and what you are doing. I don't believe that there has to be a 'one twoo' definition of ownership, but as people seem to be aware it can mean very very different things to different people.

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Edited 29 Jun 09, 4:53 PM by AstronautMikeDexter

of the previous posts, i think Syberian said it best for me...

but..

i would add, that its also about dealing with things ending too, obviously no-one wants it to end when it starts, but things do change, and a true owner will care for their charge after a split too, making sure they are ok and coping..for however long that takes.

I have only felt owned once before, and he took a huge amount of time to understand me and use that to my best advantage. When for life reasons we split, he refused to just go away, making sure i was ok, and coping, and riding out the awful times where i felt awkward with him.

I was hurt and angry, and he accepted that and rode the storm, moving us to a point where he is a dear and trusted freind, someone who knows me very well and has earned the right to tell me straight things i don't always want to hear.

He was delighted when i met my new Master, and has been supportive in the times when i needed a shoulder, but happy to step back too.

I was very sad we couldnt continue as M/s but he did take his ownership seriously, and proved it as much after the event as during the years we were together.

Edited 29 Jun 09, 9:35 PM by just_iana

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