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Discussing other pros with clients (22)

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25 Jun 09, 6:16 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 5 yrs
Lady_Lucan_PD wrote:
Discussing other pros with clients

Following on from Lady P's thread, I was wondering what posters think about the moral and ethical implications raised by the scenario of a pro discussing others in the business, whether it be positively or negatively?

What do others think?

Im not a PD though i do come into contact with a fair few submissives who have used/use PD services. I have even been approached to recommend PD's before and if i do recommend i always ask how the session went, its important as then i can recommend individuals with confidence.

I dont think it should be seen as a negative thing at all... like i say i use information i have to refer others on to them.... those that i have heard bad things about... well those i would never recommend to anyone.... and if there are dangerous PD's out there and we have a responsibility to be able to caution/advise others.

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~

25 Jun 09, 6:46 PM
MissKimberley
NL, 8 yrs


temperance wrote:
Lady_Lucan_PD wrote:
Discussing other pros with clients

Following on from Lady P's thread, I was wondering what posters think about the moral and ethical implications raised by the scenario of a pro discussing others in the business, whether it be positively or negatively?

What do others think?

Im not a PD though i do come into contact with a fair few submissives who have used/use PD services. I have even been approached to recommend PD's before and if i do recommend i always ask how the session went, its important as then i can recommend individuals with confidence.

I dont think it should be seen as a negative thing at all... like i say i use information i have to refer others on to them.... those that i have heard bad things about... well those i would never recommend to anyone.... and if there are dangerous PD's out there and we have a responsibility to be able to caution/advise others.

Cautioning / advising can also be skilfully done if one considers other PDs as competition. Not only that, you only hear one side of the story. Perhaps we would be wiser to approach the Domme in question and ask her outright. I would guess that several similar bad reports from different individuals would be fairly safe to go on, but just one bad report from one person, for me, would not be enough to not recommend the PD in question and certainly not enough to advise against seeing her. Sessions are subjective and we generally do not have sufficient objective information to judge.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” - George Orwell

Edited 25 Jun 09, 6:47 PM by MissKimberley

25 Jun 09, 7:00 PM
Lady_Lucan_PD
2 yrs
£
MissKimberley wrote:
I think we should make the distinction between talking about people (other PDs) and their session content. I do speak to subs about their previous experiences, what worked, what didn't. I am happy for them to share information, but I do not need to know names. In fact, I'd rather not know unless there is a serious issue (medical attention required, drug use, ignoring safety measures).

Absolutely agree with this. In my OP I was referring to discussing other PDs/subs *by name*, not about assessing a client/learning more about their previous experience, which is a vital part of session preparation.

I do think there are clients out there who try to manipulate pros by referring to others, and pros who try to promote themselves by badmouthing others. Both are best given a wide berth, I feel.

25 Jun 09, 7:47 PM
lisal
8 yrs
Lady_Lucan_PD wrote:
I do think there are clients out there who try to manipulate pros by referring to others

Indeed - and there are those of us who don't do that

I'll come back to the context point. I can certainly see that it's unnecessary when relating past experience to name the domme involved

But if you know each other well and trust each other then I can see situations where it may be helpful to discuss names. If one of my domme's other subs was thinking of seeing a certain domme she knows that if she asked me if I had any experience/knowledge of the lady concerned she'd get a straight and honest answer. I am fully aware that one sub's dominant from heaven is another sub's worst nightmare but even basic stuff like approachable/ a D/ser more than a SMer/all the equipment was clean could be helpful

25 Jun 09, 7:58 PM
Lady_Lucan_PD
2 yrs
£
lisal wrote:
Indeed - and there are those of us who don't do that

I'll come back to the context point. I can certainly see that it's unnecessary when relating past experience to name the domme involved

But if you know each other well and trust each other then I can see situations where it may be helpful to discuss names. If one of my domme's other subs was thinking of seeing a certain domme she knows that if she asked me if I had any experience/knowledge of the lady concerned she'd get a straight and honest answer. I am fully aware that one sub's dominant from heaven is another sub's worst nightmare but even basic stuff like approachable/ a D/ser more than a SMer/all the equipment was clean could be helpful

I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it is veering off the point I was trying to discuss a fair bit. Basic stuff would be public domain anyway - what I'm talking about is comments about a pro's proficiency, integrity, sexuality etc.

25 Jun 09, 8:06 PM
lisal
8 yrs
Lady_Lucan_PD wrote:
[I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it is veering off the point I was trying to discuss a fair bit. Basic stuff would be public domain anyway - what I'm talking about is comments about a pro's proficiency, integrity, sexuality etc.

Fair enough.

Even if basic stuff is in the public domain input from someone you know and trust can be really helpful though - and some of the stuff in the public domain is a bit iffy to say the least...

Edited 25 Jun 09, 8:27 PM by lisal

25 Jun 09, 9:41 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Sod that - just gimme the gossip! :-p

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25 Jun 09, 10:52 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 4 yrs
£
Whereas a male sub may build up a relationship with one PD a lot of male doms like to try as many sub girls as possible. Although I have a lot of regulars I'm always getting asked if I know the other girls and who I can recommend, I give honest opinions as the vast majority of the girls I've met are lovely and can take a good spanking, if I don't know the girl I'll say but I will tell them if I've seen good postings about her as not everyone is online especially my older gentlemen.

I've only heard a few horror stories and it's been the escorts, so they've really only got themselves to blame!

Occasionally I'll get a client who says they didn't like a girl known to me and I just say 'oh maybe you caught her on a bad day she's usually great etc' I have no reason to bad mouth. The only one I bad mouthed was the one who stole my advert word for word over on itc!

Occasionally I get asked to recommend a dom so I send them here or to UKM etc and tell them to do some research.

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25 Jun 09, 11:12 PM
MistressRouge
UK(B), 6 yrs
£
I never ever discuss other Pro Dommes with clients, I hear plenty gossip I tell you.

Some clients are the most gossip mongering males I have ever met in my life, some just cant help themselves lol.

Good or bad news, I never comment, discuss or add any of my opinions.

I always stay neutral, and never bite at the bit, that is just the way I choose to do business :)

" The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. Resist it and your soul grows sick with longing, for the things it has forbidden itself" Oscar Wilde
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25 Jun 09, 11:20 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

I'm just glad that I always hear good about my friends :-p

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