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Privacy law. The death of Kiss & tell. (56)

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16 Jun 09, 12:06 AM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

skadii wrote:
Ian Hislop's intelligent and articulate, too, and I was interested in why he is so opposed to prior notification or indeed to establishing a public interest.

Much as it pains me to say this, but Private Eye is a tabloid for people who are intelligent and articulate, dressed up as satire. Look at the way he continues to hint at Mosley's SM session being a Nazi fantasy to get laughs, when it clearly wasn't and the High Court agreed. It's only satire and humour though, right? But it perpetuates the impression that Mosley is into something he's not, in a way that damages his reputation.

I like Hislop, and he's pleasant enough face to face, but he's too invested in the status quo on this.

Regards,

Tanos

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16 Jun 09, 12:45 AM
Eomer_Of_Rohan
5 yrs
Max Mosely is a Nazi and is into BDSM. He just doesn't combine the two.

"Honesty is the most offensive thing in the world."

16 Jun 09, 1:10 AM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
skadii wrote:
"What's the new privacy law stopping YOU from knowing?" Cue: scare story about young offenders being moved in NEXT DOOR TO YOU ZOMG PANIC!!!!!eleven11!

Clive Coleman really did come accross as totally biased and needing a hard slap.

And he kept on about the five women being 'prostitutes', which pissed me off.

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Edited 16 Jun 09, 1:43 AM by Ishmael

16 Jun 09, 6:48 AM
proccie
UK(HP), 5 yrs


Eomer_Of_Rohan wrote:
Max Mosely is a Nazi and is into BDSM. He just doesn't combine the two.

It's panto time again folks.

Omnes: "Oh no he's not"

Usual suspects: "Oh yes he is"

Repeat until bored.

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16 Jun 09, 9:20 AM
Mistress_Switch
4 yrs
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skadii wrote:
Onto Max Mosley and they're making a meal over advance notification without actually mentioning that the reason he got damages was *not* because of the lack of advance notification, but because the story was false.

Oh, and no-win-no-fee is the work of Stan because it enables people to sue the poor beleaguered tabloids.

This is a very one sided debate.

Like any business, the tabloids have insurance for such legal matters and most of the tabloids are owned by Rupert Murdoch.

skadii wrote:
Ian Hislop's intelligent and articulate, too, and I was interested in why he is so opposed to prior notification or indeed to establishing a public interest.

Maybe it's because I'm not a journo, but I genuinely don't understand what the problem is - especially if you're a reputable publication - in establishing that your story carries public interest.

Given that the Eye routinely satirises the Telegraph as the Hellograph, it seems terribly hypocritical for Hislop to be defending the red-tops' right to mere prurience.

Without exposes Hislop wouldn't have anything to take the p*ss out of.

I agree but we're not dealing with reputable publications, this is the gutter press. The NOTW don't even follow the PCC own rules on prior notification and completely ignored them on the day of this particular expose, even to the point of running a different first edition of their paper so that MM wouldn't see the publication and apply for an injunction.

Tanos wrote:

Much as it pains me to say this, but Private Eye is a tabloid for people who are intelligent and articulate, dressed up as satire. Look at the way he continues to hint at Mosley's SM session being a Nazi fantasy to get laughs, when it clearly wasn't and the High Court agreed. It's only satire and humour though, right? But it perpetuates the impression that Mosley is into something he's not, in a way that damages his reputation.

The damage was done on the day of the expose and is irrevocable. MM will never regain his dignity and will always be remembered firstly for the expose.

Ishmael wrote:

Clive Coleman really did come accross as totally biased and needing a hard slap.

And he kept on about the five women being 'prostitutes', which pissed me off.

Likewise the women will always be known as prostitutes. To those that matter, they will always be known as women!

Pain is temporary, pride is forever!

17 Jun 09, 1:06 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
I have just sent this email to Clive Coleman:

Dear Mr Coleman

I was very interested to see your programme about Max Mosley's attempt to curtail the freedom of the press, but somewhat disappointed by the stance that you appear to have adopted; while I am sure that no-one really wants to stop the press revealing important truths, do we really want to have a tabloid press that assumes the right to spy into our bedrooms? It is not titillation; it is humilliation, name calling and intimidation - not just of those exposed but of everyone that even considers that they might possibly have a little kink that might be exposed, and that is a very large number of people.

What I do want to know is why you seem to think that I, as a sadomasochist, have a lesser right to privacy than 'normal' people. I did not choose my sexuality; I am dealing with it, and I'm very pleased to be able to write, enjoying it. I cannot see any reason why I should be considered fair game by any prurient and salacious newspaper.

Can you explain to me why it is right that I should be fearful of being exposed by a tabloid journalist?

Ishmael Skyes

If you want to email him too, you can by going to his website:

http://www.clivecoleman.co.uk/CL_Home.htm

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17 Jun 09, 1:08 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Tanos wrote:
I like Hislop, and he's pleasant enough face to face, but he's too invested in the status quo on this.

And his mother was rogered by a Sontaran, let's not forget that.

I have emailed the odious little bigot in the same terms as above.

The Boat, one of the best SM/Fetish parties of the year, sails at 9pm on Saturday 20th June. Tickets are £25, click here for more details: http://www.the-firm.org/Boat.htm

Edited 17 Jun 09, 1:53 PM by Ishmael

17 Jun 09, 1:52 PM
Backdooruk
UK(BA), 12 yrs
Eomer_Of_Rohan wrote:
Max Mosely is a Nazi

If you really believe that why don't you send a letter saying so to him with your full name and address and see what his lawyers have to say in response. ;-)

Personally I'd never accuse anybody of anything I would not be prepared to say directly to their face.

- Chris

This is my voice, my weapon of choice

17 Jun 09, 1:56 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Backdooruk wrote:
Eomer_Of_Rohan wrote:
Max Mosely is a Nazi

If you really believe that why don't you send a letter saying so to him with your full name and address and see what his lawyers have to say in response. ;-)

I'm sick of reading this.

I know the four women he was playing with, and not only are they not prostitutes, they wouldn't have anything to do with him if he was a Nazi.

The Boat, one of the best SM/Fetish parties of the year, sails at 9pm on Saturday 20th June. Tickets are £25, click here for more details: http://www.the-firm.org/Boat.htm

17 Jun 09, 2:13 PM
bohnanza
UK(FK), 12 yrs

One interesting thing the program came up with was confidentiality agreements having some legal force. It would be possible to have an agreement to confidentiality as part of a club membership, though this would mean the club would have to proceed against anyone who posted about what happened everywhere, eg IC, as it could be used as a defence that the Club didn't enforce those agreements, in the same way as Trade Marks and Patents infringements have to be enforced to keep them valid.

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