Spanner Trust -SM campaign- can you join in? (95)

This post is on the BDSM Activism web board.

Wed 10 Jun 09, 10:51 AM
Degenerate
UK(M), 3 yrs
This campaign leaflet from the Spanner Trust is aimed at SM people, they are looking for volunteers to get involved as a claimant in a case to prove that the law on SM is incompatible with the human rights act.
http://www.spannertrust.org/documents/spanner_tr...
I am sharing it in case anyone here wishes to join in and also as a topic for debate.
I realise if anyone here is joining in they may not wish to declare it here in public. As well as to publicise it, I just thought it might be interesting to discuss this campaign. I am considering whether I am in a position to join in and am really interested in what people think about it.
What do you think about it? (need to read leaflet as it's a PDF so cannot be copied here.
PLEASE SHARE THIS LEAFLET ANYWHERE YOU CAN.
De
Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk
Get up, stand up - Bob Marley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0
All you need is love - The Beatles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxTpsIVzzo
Glad To Be Gay - Tom Robinson Band http://www.cockerel.net/music/pitd/gtbg.mp3

Edited Wed 10 Jun 09, 11:21 AM by Degenerate

10 Jun 09, 10:56 AM
JudyInDsGuise
UK(E), 7 yrs Bit worried that nobody at Spanner Trust actually practises SM, or knows anybody that does (apparently).
judy
I must be only one in a million (© David Bowie)

10 Jun 09, 10:59 AM
Degenerate
UK(M), 3 yrs

JudyInDsGuise wrote:
Bit worried that nobody at Spanner Trust actually practises SM, or knows anybody that does (apparently).
judy
That's not true.. I am confused?
De
Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk
Get up, stand up - Bob Marley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0
All you need is love - The Beatles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxTpsIVzzo
Glad To Be Gay - Tom Robinson Band http://www.cockerel.net/music/pitd/gtbg.mp3

Edited 10 Jun 09, 11:00 AM by Degenerate

10 Jun 09, 11:00 AM
JudyInDsGuise
UK(E), 7 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
That's not true.. I am confused?
De
On the PDF it says that they are looking for volunteers that are at risk of prosecution, and that they "may" be able to stay anonymous.
Why doesn't someone from Spanner put themselves forward?
judy
I must be only one in a million (© David Bowie)

10 Jun 09, 11:01 AM
Degenerate
UK(M), 3 yrs

JudyInDsGuise wrote:

Degenerate wrote:
That's not true.. I am confused?
De
On the PDF it says that they are looking for volunteers that are at risk of prosecution, and that they "may" be able to stay anonymous.
Why doesn't someone from Spanner put themselves forward?
judy
How do you know they aren't - I don't know that they aren't?
De
Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk
Get up, stand up - Bob Marley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0
All you need is love - The Beatles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxTpsIVzzo
Glad To Be Gay - Tom Robinson Band http://www.cockerel.net/music/pitd/gtbg.mp3

10 Jun 09, 11:01 AM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 3 yrs
£
I don't think I actually understand what they are asking. I understand what they are wanting to achieve but I'm concerned that by becoming a claimant you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position and may be open to prosecution.
"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/ http://www.clips4sale.com/store/26308

10 Jun 09, 11:05 AM
Tanos
UK(M), 12 yrs
Y!

JudyInDsGuise wrote:
Bit worried that nobody at Spanner Trust actually practises SM, or knows anybody that does (apparently).
My understanding from previous speeches by trustees is that they want couples with several different orientations. Part of the reason for the original Spanner precedent was that the CPS were able to misrepresent SM as "some weird thing gay men do."
Regards,
Tanos
www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos

10 Jun 09, 11:06 AM
Degenerate
UK(M), 3 yrs

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
I don't think I actually understand what they are asking. I understand what they are wanting to achieve but I'm concerned that by becoming a claimant you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position and may be open to prosecution.
"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness

Love your sig! Have nicked it for profile.
De
Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk
Get up, stand up - Bob Marley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0
All you need is love - The Beatles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxTpsIVzzo
Glad To Be Gay - Tom Robinson Band http://www.cockerel.net/music/pitd/gtbg.mp3

10 Jun 09, 11:07 AM
Erleiden
UK(E), 6 yrs
It's an admirable cause, but the hint that anonymity could not be guaranteed makes me very cautious. It would be much better if that could be sorted before anyone takes the plunge.
If there were two of you, which one would win?

10 Jun 09, 11:08 AM
Tanos
UK(M), 12 yrs
Y!

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
I don't think I actually understand what they are asking. I understand what they are wanting to achieve but I'm concerned that by becoming a claimant you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position and may be open to prosecution.
You can get a declaration of incompatibility that says a particular law is breaking the Human Rights Act and stopping you from doing something you should be able to do.
But yes, the danger is the police, CPS and government decide to have a dig around in your life, for putting your head above the parapet. Given the way the MET has acted as Labour's private police force it's not that inconceivable
Regards,
Tanos
www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos

10 Jun 09, 11:11 AM
MissFelicity
UK(SG), 3 yrs

I don't understand what you're after either.
Are you looking for someone to stand up in court and say "Look at me, I like caning but I'm not a freak?".

Next page


	©1997-2010 Informed Consent