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Pedestal, what a let down! (95)

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31 May 09, 10:43 AM
thatboyspike
UK(N), 3 yrs
sub_tommy wrote:
well Your criticiscm was of the few men who were annoying and if it is getting too much for you then the club via the House slaves,Mistresses or Security will deal with it if informed. The title is now misleading because MsScarlett accepts what She said was wrong and hopefully in future She will feel ready to point out any unwanted attention which none of Pedestal wish for

Do you not feel you are being rather aggressive here?

It was One's view of the night and some areas where She believed it could be improved, it seems others have agreed to an extent with Her.

Seems a tad harsh to have a go at someone for just highlighting a bad experience that they had.

If everyone just kept their mouths shut about bad experiences/issues then the club would suffer more than if someone raised an issue which could be then addressed.

31 May 09, 10:46 AM
Lucifer38
UK, 7 yrs

Sounds like youve been "pedestalled"!

Why cant someone post regards their experience, most people have viewed it as constructive criticism and to be fair some House Dommes have come back with some valid propositions.

sub_tommy wrote:
well Your criticiscm was of the few men who were annoying and if it is getting too much for you then the club via the House slaves,Mistresses or Security will deal with it if informed. The title is now misleading because MsScarlett accepts what She said was wrong and hopefully in future She will feel ready to point out any unwanted attention which none of Pedestal wish for

Today is a Gift...............Thats why its called the fucking Present!!!

31 May 09, 10:47 AM
Gentleman_Tom
UK(SE), 4 yrs

thatboyspike wrote:
sub_tommy wrote:
well Your criticiscm was of the few men who were annoying and if it is getting too much for you then the club via the House slaves,Mistresses or Security will deal with it if informed. The title is now misleading because MsScarlett accepts what She said was wrong and hopefully in future She will feel ready to point out any unwanted attention which none of Pedestal wish for

Do you not feel you are being rather aggressive here?

It was One's view of the night and some areas where She believed it could be improved, it seems others have agreed to an extent with Her.

Seems a tad harsh to have a go at someone for just highlighting a bad experience that they had.

If everyone just kept their mouths shut about bad experiences/issues then the club would suffer more than if someone raised an issue which could be then addressed.

It will be addressed and all connected with Pedestal can only act on any of these problems if they are brought to attention on the night as they were certain unwelcome individuals stepping out of line. Anything constructive that can be dealt with on a future basis will be dealt with if possible

31 May 09, 10:51 AM
mr_nicholas
UK(TW), 5 yrs
The sun is shining, its a GLORIOUS weekend

lets put our shorts on, and get out there !!!!!!

Heres something thats very Positive ... http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/238146/

Heres something else thats very Positive............

there are only 60 days til the next.......... Pedestal !!!!

Edited 31 May 09, 10:57 AM by mr_nicholas

31 May 09, 10:56 AM
Gentleman_Tom
UK(SE), 4 yrs

Lucifer38 wrote:
Sounds like youve been "pedestalled"!

Why cant someone post regards their experience, most people have viewed it as constructive criticism and to be fair some House Dommes have come back with some valid propositions.

sub_tommy wrote:
well Your criticiscm was of the few men who were annoying and if it is getting too much for you then the club via the House slaves,Mistresses or Security will deal with it if informed. The title is now misleading because MsScarlett accepts what She said was wrong and hopefully in future She will feel ready to point out any unwanted attention which none of Pedestal wish for

[/quote of course I have been pedestaled since I set foot in the club. Anyone can post their experiences and welcomed but as MsScatlett says Her original comments were regretted then the title becomes misleading . I have changed a title on a discusion I opened very easily

31 May 09, 10:57 AM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

ClubPedestal wrote:
There were 410 people there (numbers actually up on March), there's bound to be a trouble maker somewhere, please help us find them next time.

This is genuine curiosity not a pop :)

Most clubs can sort of muddle through since they're quite similar to a vanilla nightclub except for the dungeon area, where they tend to have rules posted and DMs easing people off the spanking bench they're sat on ;)

But how do you get new guys up to speed about your rules and distinct "tone"?

Thanks,

Tanos

www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos

31 May 09, 10:59 AM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
Tanos wrote:

But how do you get new guys up to speed about your rules and distinct "tone"?

Thanks,

Tanos

I'd say that reading the Pedestal website is a good start. As for the house slaves, they are chosen and drilled before the actual event takes place, so they should know by then.

Back to my own criticisms, they were about men who behaved appallingly, and their behaviour would have been just as appalling had it been another fetish club, a vanilla club, a wedding reception or the office Christmas party.

I'm a Genuine Fake.

Edited 31 May 09, 11:00 AM by Ms_Tytania

31 May 09, 11:29 AM
bustedballboy
UK, 4 yrs

Ms_Sodomitrix wrote:
temperance wrote:
it pisses me off when i see skinny birds prancing around on the guys with nothing on their feet....

I didn't notice any skinny birds in the cage nor anywhere else, but I did see quite a few slim ladies everywhere, including the trampling cage - and with their heels firmly on when trampling. Me included. Maybe you were referring to us with that derogatory term, Madam?

Offtopic-ly,

Ms S.

If I may continue off-topic for a moment.... from my position at the (very) sharp end of events, I can attest to the happy fact that this Pedestal saw more women trampling in heels than I've seen before. My memory is a blur and I can't count anyway but this humble carpet boy must have found himself under the heels of well over a dozen stiletto clad goddesses, sometimes two at once, and has the heel prints to prove it :) And to you Ms Sodomitrix, you set my pulse racing when you entered the cage and walked right over me without a care, it was an honour and a pleasure to be under your heels that night.

Getting back on topic.....

I for one think it's good that honest feedback can be aired and regret that Ms Scarlett has felt obliged to withdraw her original comment, apparently due to negative comments here. In my experience each night is different, some are slow and cautious, some are pumping, and often it can be coloured by whatever mood you're in yourself. Just as we've seen in another place, it's not the institution that's at fault, but (a small minority of) the members within it. I may only be just another sub but I cringe inwardly at some of the attitudes shown by a few of the male guests. I'm not very forward by nature so I find this can make me even more reserved for fear of being tarred with their brush.

bbb

31 May 09, 11:33 AM
ms_chatelaine
UK(SW), 4 yrs
Ms_Sodomitrix wrote:
Tanos wrote:

But how do you get new guys up to speed about your rules and distinct "tone"?

Thanks,

Tanos

I'd say that reading the Pedestal website is a good start. As for the house slaves, they are chosen and drilled before the actual event takes place, so they should know by then.

Back to my own criticisms, they were about men who behaved appallingly, and their behaviour would have been just as appalling had it been another fetish club, a vanilla club, a wedding reception or the office Christmas party.

With you on that one!

Men are like a fine wine. They begin as grapes, and it's up to Women to stomp the shit out of them until they turn into something acceptable to have dinner with.

31 May 09, 11:43 AM
femsup
UK(NW), 5 yrs
Those dos at Warren Street were really good.How is Ego have you met her recently.Didn't she get very close to the Scotts barman?

Ishmael wrote:
Mistress_Susannah wrote:
The single man does have to make the effort to meet people at Pedestal - we will try our best to be as welcoming as we can - approach us, engage in a proper conversation with us and we will introduce you to people.

I am bound to sympathise, having been in receipt of complaints by single men that had failed to have a good time on more than one occasion, and rather feeling that I'd done the best I could to help them have a good time, but short of having the good time for them there was little else I could do.

(I once wrote a Victorian SM Horror story that contained a Whitechapel prostitute named Little Else, but that's another story)

On one occasion I was phoned by a man from Ireland, about a club I ran at the time, called 'Strict'; I explained to him that it was in a pub at no. 48, Warren Street. This seemed to present him with a real problem; how would he find Warren street? I explained that there was a tube station he could travel to on the tube, and it was called Warren Street, and it was on Warren Street; all he needed to do then was follow the numbers along to 48. He felt that I was setting him such an unreasonable challenge that he'd probably be happier staying in his hoel room. I was bound to agree.

I'm made mindful of the Parliament of Saints (1653), a piece of political engineering in the spirit of lunatic optimism, in which a chosen body of good and righteous men were intended to form the ideal Parliament to rule England. Even between such Godly fellows, squabbling began with depressing promptness, so what hope for the rest of us?

But there is a certain irony in that while we may dream of being in thrall to a cruel but beautiful owner, or of being the owner of a cringing caitiff, it is often also the case that we'd rather that they were lovely people as well, and since most of the people I've met on The Scene have been lovely, it is all the horrider surprise to discover that some 'goddesses' are just appalling, ill-mannered bitches with egoes the size of Birmingham, and that some of the creatures that seem happiest crawling on the floor really are invertibrates and do leave slime trails.

But in some ways, to expect otherwise would be just as woefully pious as Cromwell's final effort at democracy.

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