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Financial Domination (77)

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11 Jun 09, 9:15 AM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

soulful1 wrote:

I've already explained by your fake profile wouldn't have generated any cash. True fin subs wouldn't have fallen for it and timewasting subs wouldn't care, they would manipulate you for some free domming.

Why is taking cash from a consenting happy fin sub so bad that it needs to be 'cleansed' by donating it to charity?

Huh?

Should I give all the profits from my sessions to charity as well?

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But the point is the one's that contacted me came across as pretty serious about sending me cash. They may not have done in the end but, I guess you would have the same issue. Some would say that they would and then when it came to it they wouldnt, others may well do though.

I have never suggested that you give your domming profits to charity as you provide a tangiable service and a well needed one in many cases.

What I said was that if you are taking cash for doing nothing then morally perhaps you should think a little more about what happens to that cash and to the person giving it. Otherwise it's not about BDSM it's about rank profiteering and there is a big difference.

At the end of the day we have talked this one through to the death and will probably have to agree to disagree. If your conscience can justify it then thats up to you but, personally I feel sorry for the people that are out of pocket. [/quote]

So you are saying that fin domme isn't a valid form of BDSM?

YKINOK then?

And who says fin dommes do precisely nothing? What experience do you base your opinion on? Your fake profile?

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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11 Jun 09, 7:41 PM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

The term Findomme makes it sound like the fetish involves a fish.

I shall not feed the trolls, Trolls are the mindkiller, Trolls are the little death that bring forum oblivion.

11 Jun 09, 10:27 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
Mistress_Susannah wrote:
Why do you feel sorry for people? Do you feel sorry for people who are engaging in other consensual forms of BDSM?

Why do you think it's also something for nothing? Financial Dommes have to spend an enormous amount of time online writing emails etc...

Sorry to link to another site, but you may find this thread interesting reading:

http://www.uk-mistresses.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/i...

Thanks for the link I'll have a look at it when I get chance:)

In answer to your questions no I dont feel sorry for people that engage in other forms of BDSM, of course not, otherwise I wouldnt be on here lol. I feel sorry for the fin subs because actually looking at some of the posts on here they are just seen as a walking bank balance and little else.

As for having to spend lots of time writing mails etc I would suspect that many are cut and pasted or maybe I'm being cynical and no offence is intended by that comment BTW.

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
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11 Jun 09, 10:50 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
soulful1 wrote:

I've already explained by your fake profile wouldn't have generated any cash. True fin subs wouldn't have fallen for it and timewasting subs wouldn't care, they would manipulate you for some free domming.

Why is taking cash from a consenting happy fin sub so bad that it needs to be 'cleansed' by donating it to charity?

Huh?

Should I give all the profits from my sessions to charity as well?

But the point is the one's that contacted me came across as pretty serious about sending me cash. They may not have done in the end but, I guess you would have the same issue. Some would say that they would and then when it came to it they wouldnt, others may well do though.

I have never suggested that you give your domming profits to charity as you provide a tangiable service and a well needed one in many cases.

What I said was that if you are taking cash for doing nothing then morally perhaps you should think a little more about what happens to that cash and to the person giving it. Otherwise it's not about BDSM it's about rank profiteering and there is a big difference.

At the end of the day we have talked this one through to the death and will probably have to agree to disagree. If your conscience can justify it then thats up to you but, personally I feel sorry for the people that are out of pocket. [/quote]

So you are saying that fin domme isn't a valid form of BDSM?

YKINOK then?

And who says fin dommes do precisely nothing? What experience do you base your opinion on? Your fake profile?

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I assume that you are refering to my Troy one and not my profile now?

In my view, no I dont see anything linking into BDSM if all you want to do is take some person's money that you have never met and never will do!!

Also it would be very easy for somebody to knock up a few letters and then individualise them and cut and paste them to suit. I'm not saying you do as I'm talking more generically but I think you can see where I'm coming from.

Sorry but that is just the way I see it.

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
Courtesy of Homer.J.Simpson

Edited 11 Jun 09, 10:51 PM by soulful1

29 Jun 09, 11:42 AM
Aurorian
UK(HD), 5 yrs
£
If consenting adults are happy to do this (or anything), then where's the problem? I would do it and not feel morally corrupt, why not? Good to see some sensible replies here, Lady Anna has posted a lot of what I was thinking, well put as always!
29 Jun 09, 9:48 PM
BarbieSlutLoki
UK(E), 6 yrs
Plenty of people do it, it's called marriage

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7 Jul 09, 10:04 PM
moghalman
UK(EC), 12 yrs
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
moghalman wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
Mz_Lucinda_Doys wrote:
Of course their are those insta Dommes who would then try to extort money and in fact some money slaves love that also.

For most of them they gain pleasure knowing that the Dommes buys herself gifts with their money and they like to know what the money has been used for.

But at the end of the day they like and want to be used and abused or they would not contact a fin domme in the first place.

Exactly. It seems odd to me that this concept seems to immoral to some people though. If a guy likes to throw money at a woman who then treats him like a cross between an ATM and a verbal punching bag where's the harm?

Exactly. Why we have to subjected to pseudo-moralistic bullshit though, I don't know.

So what part do morals play? Or is it ok to be amoral?

I think its okay not to patronise the client. :)

Why do *you* think morals should play a part?

I think it's important to be able to tell right from wrong.

7 Jul 09, 10:08 PM
moghalman
UK(EC), 12 yrs
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
Mz_Lucinda_Doys wrote:
moghalman wrote:
Mz_Lucinda_Doys wrote:
The slave must take responsibility for his own actions.

And the Mistress has a duty to look after the slave's best interests

I had already made that point in my original posting..

**For the genuine ones I give a great deal of time, attention and effort into making their fetish fantasy a reality and staying in contact with them...call it a duty of care if you like but if I even get an inkling that they are making themself financially unstable this is dealt with by reducing payments to the smallest ammount or imposing a ban on payments for a set period but would still set humiliating tasks..for some this feeds the craving for being a pathetic loser but still means they are controlled.

Ah but he isn't making a point. He is preaching.

Well if that's not a fact then I dread to think what the alternative could potentially be.

7 Jul 09, 10:10 PM
moghalman
UK(EC), 12 yrs
Ms_Valentine wrote:
moghalman wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
Mz_Lucinda_Doys wrote:
Of course their are those insta Dommes who would then try to extort money and in fact some money slaves love that also.

For most of them they gain pleasure knowing that the Dommes buys herself gifts with their money and they like to know what the money has been used for.

But at the end of the day they like and want to be used and abused or they would not contact a fin domme in the first place.

Exactly. It seems odd to me that this concept seems to immoral to some people though. If a guy likes to throw money at a woman who then treats him like a cross between an ATM and a verbal punching bag where's the harm?

Exactly. Why we have to subjected to pseudo-moralistic bullshit though, I don't know.

So what part do morals play? Or is it ok to be amoral?

I say it is okay to be amoral. It not okay to behave immorally. The two are not necessarily the same.

I understand what you are saying; my personal opinion is that it is not ok to be amoral or immoral

7 Jul 09, 10:27 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

moghalman wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
moghalman wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
Mz_Lucinda_Doys wrote:
Of course their are those insta Dommes who would then try to extort money and in fact some money slaves love that also.

For most of them they gain pleasure knowing that the Dommes buys herself gifts with their money and they like to know what the money has been used for.

But at the end of the day they like and want to be used and abused or they would not contact a fin domme in the first place.

Exactly. It seems odd to me that this concept seems to immoral to some people though. If a guy likes to throw money at a woman who then treats him like a cross between an ATM and a verbal punching bag where's the harm?

Exactly. Why we have to subjected to pseudo-moralistic bullshit though, I don't know.

So what part do morals play? Or is it ok to be amoral?

I think its okay not to patronise the client. :)

Why do *you* think morals should play a part?

I think it's important to be able to tell right from wrong.

But nobody actually involved in Fin Dom thinks it's wrong - so what's your point?

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/ http://www.clips4sale.com/store/26308 http://ladyannadominatrix.c4slive.com/

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