Straight Male Fantasy: To serve another male...... (93)

First thought would be "what are your sources" - what are the statistics and where did you get them from.

When you say "it's quite common".

When you say "despite their own natural leanings".

You have to be quoting a paper or study of some kind?

For proper discussion, we obviously need to know about all of the evidence leading up to the conclusion - whereas, you've simply provided the conclusion and presented it as truth.

Apologies, obviously, if I've simply repeated what everybody else has said, but the OP required a snapshot answer - and this is that.

My €2 worth,

No such thing. A male who wants to sexually serve another male is functionally Bi. Whether they admit that to themselves is another matter. And there's no problem with that, it is what it is.

I'd agree on the "spectrum" point. That almost everyone has two numbers that add up to one hundred, a ratio of straightness/bi-ness, whatever. Bleh. Same thing for any opposed label of sexuality, such as Top/ Bottom, for a start.

Lord knows how you quantify it, and I'm not sure it would be possible or worth the effort.

I'd put myself at 98% straight. I can appreciate why Johnny Depp is hot. Dolph Lundgren has ( had) the perfect body...

With me, that appreciation just doesn't translate into wanting to do anything. I have tried, as a teenager, which I'd recommend to anyone - at the very least it clears away any lingering doubts.

I agree with other comments here - OP, your premise is false, IMO. Straight guys don't want sexual play with other guys. The word for a guy who does, is Bi-sexual.

Plenty of grey areas - House slaves serving drinks at a Dommes house party etc - are they "serving" the guest, or the Host? And is that a sexual or erotic thing for them? Different answer from everyone you ask, I'd have thought...

A vicious appetite visits me each night / and won't be satisfied, won't be denied. / An unbearable pain, a beating in my brain / That leaves the mark of cain right here inside.

Disagree, of course. Motive being everything. How about if his wife had a gun to the head? Extreme case, but, one that I hope illustrates that it is the *source* of that want that is important...unless your your definition of Bi is more about circumstance rather than desire? (meaning, if you fuck a boy then fuck a girl that makes you bi - even if you only ever get a sexual response from girls?)

You haven't met my Missus! Gun at the head? Again?

But you are quite right - I first topped blokes to try to make eye candy for her, which is nice, and then got into the weirdness of doing D/s with guys. Which is nice too.

Lockey answered his own question though:

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
The antidote to whinge threads...?

I think the operational word in Lockey's reply is 'WANTS'. This is, engaging in sexual activities with men without coercion nor under duress. Incidentally, I agree with his post too. I find all that "I enjoy sucking a bloke's cock but I'm not bi" the ultimate hypocrisy. Or denial. Or lack of self awareness. What I certainly wouldn't call it is hetero-anything.

Pornified Man-Hater Extraordinaire.

Indeed.

To answer the question put to me, I'm talking about desire. Sucking a guys dick because his mate's holding an AK to my head wouldn't make me Bi. Seeking out male Doms on IC for sex play, would.

I wouldn't fuck anyone I didn't get a sexual response from, because I wouldn't want to, and wouldn't get hard. QED. I assume you mean sexual response to mean erotic charge/thrill/perve/ whatever we're calling it today.

Fucking boys and then fucking girls is a pretty good definition of Bisexual, I'd say. Whether someone might feel more at home doing one or the other, or indeed insist they are straight, despite doing both, would be a matter for the individual.

A vicious appetite visits me each night / and won't be satisfied, won't be denied. / An unbearable pain, a beating in my brain / That leaves the mark of cain right here inside.

mr_guy wrote: The_Inner_Whore wrote: And my mind is already on overdrive, imagining you doing faggy things with other pretty switch gentlemen I know... *fans herself* The whole thing sounds a lot less appealing when described as faggy. Not sure I like that word! But as long as its having the right effect...

See, that makes it more appealing for me. But I also kinda like the Walt Whitman comrade-sex idea... hmm...

As I enjoy that wide eyed "you're not going to make me are you?" thing, yeah, I could get into "making" a straight guy do stuff with a guy, for sure. Just as I could enjoy making him do things with a woman he's not attracted to. But, to be fair, I like it a lot better when I don't have to force the interaction along... when it's well lubricated, you might say.

Does playing with another man make you bisexual? I don't think so, no. If you're thinking of bisexuality as in would be happy in a prolonged sexual experience or romantic experience with either, no. And even if you define it as bisexual to play with another man at all- I would potentially argue that depends if it gets you off, and why. A man can suck another man's cock without getting a hard on, for example, or could get off on the same activity if a woman is involved, because the other man then becomes sort of an extension for the woman's control, possibly?

All that said, I prefer men who'll play with other men cause they actually like it.

"I can't tell if you're playing some kind of feminazi mind fuck game on me or if you're trying to seduce me." -Sex and Death 101

What a good way of putting it!

Of course I am told there are some that enjoy the horseriding and are attraced to the being too! But that is a whole new thread of it's own!

I do still like the idea of a femme making me serve a man/men. She would choose them, and it would giving up a lot of control to her. I'd probably enjoy every minute of it. :P

Having her and a friend watch and call the shots would add to the humiliation and pleasure.

PS: love your profile and pics str8lads_n_couples

Pornified Doll of the Patriarchy and Man-Hater Extraordinaire. Thanks.