30 May 09, 8:14 PM
SirLashleyS
UK(S), 4 yrs
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lil_Pup wrote:
SirLashleyS wrote:
Scuse me, but I said 'no problem with those who ain't, so long as they're honest.' A statement devoid of semantics.
Unlike the original post, which was pure semantics. Repeat: Either you're straight or you ain't. And if you ain't, you're on the sliding scale.
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Methinks ye protest too much Sir
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Riposte unwarranted, not to mention devoid of originality.
Protested only 'cause somebody tried to project their particular fantasy urges, here onto 'most straight males'. Psuedo-psychology, absolute crap from a wishful thinker (I thought). Annoyed me...but not too much (it was just so bloody dim..!)
The silky-smooth soothing voice of reason and logic.
(You WILL feel much better and speak more sense while very securely tied-up...)
Edited 30 May 09, 8:47 PM by SirLashleyS
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30 May 09, 11:07 PM
straight_lad_trainer
3 yrs
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SirLashleyS wrote:
lil_Pup wrote:
SirLashleyS wrote:
Scuse me, but I said 'no problem with those who ain't, so long as they're honest.' A statement devoid of semantics.
Unlike the original post, which was pure semantics. Repeat: Either you're straight or you ain't. And if you ain't, you're on the sliding scale.
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Methinks ye protest too much Sir
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Riposte unwarranted, not to mention devoid of originality.
Protested only 'cause somebody tried to project their particular fantasy urges, here onto 'most straight males'. Psuedo-psychology, absolute crap from a wishful thinker (I thought). Annoyed me...but not too much (it was just so bloody dim..!)
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I never stated that 'most straight males' were into this, merely that it was a common fantasy. Not wishful thinking either, the number of personal memos I've had back me up on that one.
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31 May 09, 2:38 AM
misfit
UK, 3 yrs
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str8lads_n_couples wrote:
SirLashleyS wrote:
lil_Pup wrote:
SirLashleyS wrote:
Scuse me, but I said 'no problem with those who ain't, so long as they're honest.' A statement devoid of semantics.
Unlike the original post, which was pure semantics. Repeat: Either you're straight or you ain't. And if you ain't, you're on the sliding scale.
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Methinks ye protest too much Sir
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Riposte unwarranted, not to mention devoid of originality.
Protested only 'cause somebody tried to project their particular fantasy urges, here onto 'most straight males'. Psuedo-psychology, absolute crap from a wishful thinker (I thought). Annoyed me...but not too much (it was just so bloody dim..!)
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I never stated that 'most straight males' were into this, merely that it was a common fantasy. Not wishful thinking either, the number of personal memos I've had back me up on that one.
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I can understand why this would be a common fantasy and I am sure you are correct and it is not wishful thinking.
Best
M Space travels in my blood. And there ain't nothing I can do about it.
Now I know I'm being used but that's okay cause I like the abuse.
I can resist everything except temptation.
It's always funny until someone gets hurt and then it's just hilarious.
Cake or Death?
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31 May 09, 1:57 PM
SirLashleyS
UK(S), 4 yrs
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Merely suggested that males who 'fantasise sexually serving other males' ain't quite straight. ie first poster's notion was based on a plain contradiction-in-terms.
Not that I'm prejudiced. Each to their own as I said.
But, along lines of first poster's 'logic', more absurdities –
Dogs are in permanent mourning because they're not cats.
Cats would much rather be sparrows, which envy all worms.
Knives spend their lives mostly wishing they'd been born as spoons. (A common one, this)!?
Most kinksters go on IC because they fantasise 'being vanilla'.
Goths mostly dream of being skinheads.
And (this one's a cracker) – most lifelong lesbians constantly daydream about being Stepford wives.
(Your thoughts, etc).
Whatever, be happy,
LS
The silky-smooth soothing voice of reason and logic.
(You WILL feel much better and speak more sense while very securely tied-up...)
Edited 31 May 09, 2:20 PM by SirLashleyS
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31 May 09, 5:54 PM
straight_lad_trainer
3 yrs
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SirLashleyS wrote:
Merely suggested that males who 'fantasise sexually serving other males' ain't quite straight. ie first poster's notion was based on a plain contradiction-in-terms.
Not that I'm prejudiced. Each to their own as I said.
But, along lines of first poster's 'logic', more absurdities –
Dogs are in permanent mourning because they're not cats.
Cats would much rather be sparrows, which envy all worms.
Knives spend their lives mostly wishing they'd been born as spoons. (A common one, this)!?
Most kinksters go on IC because they fantasise 'being vanilla'.
Goths mostly dream of being skinheads.
And (this one's a cracker) – most lifelong lesbians constantly daydream about being Stepford wives.
(Your thoughts, etc).
Whatever, be happy,
LS
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Well I have to agree with you.... to a point.
You will notice [or maybe you didn't] in my original post I posed the question “Straight Male Fantasy: To submit to and serve another male sexually.........Are they in denial?”
To a certain extent it is, as you say, a “contradiction-in-terms”.
But at the same time a genuine dichotomy many men/lads have.
They do not find other men attractive, shudder at the idea of 'having a boy friend', turned right off at the thought of kissing another male..........etc.......
But [and only in this scenario] are mightily turned on by the thought of another male humiliating them sexually.
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31 May 09, 10:16 PM
SirLashleyS
UK(S), 4 yrs
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str8lads_n_couples wrote:
SirLashleyS wrote:
Merely suggested that males who 'fantasise sexually serving other males' ain't quite straight. ie first poster's notion was based on a plain contradiction-in-terms.
Not that I'm prejudiced. Each to their own as I said.
But, along lines of first poster's 'logic', more absurdities –
Dogs are in permanent mourning because they're not cats.
Cats would much rather be sparrows, which envy all worms.
Knives spend their lives mostly wishing they'd been born as spoons. (A common one, this)!?
Most kinksters go on IC because they fantasise 'being vanilla'.
Goths mostly dream of being skinheads.
And (this one's a cracker) – most lifelong lesbians constantly daydream about being Stepford wives.
(Your thoughts, etc).
Whatever, be happy,
LS
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Well I have to agree with you.... to a point.
You will notice [or maybe you didn't] in my original post I posed the question “Straight Male Fantasy: To submit to and serve another male sexually.........Are they in denial?”
To a certain extent it is, as you say, a “contradiction-in-terms”.
But at the same time a genuine dichotomy many men/lads have.
They do not find other men attractive, shudder at the idea of 'having a boy friend', turned right off at the thought of kissing another male..........etc.......
But [and only in this scenario] are mightily turned on by the thought of another male humiliating them sexually.
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Back to human basics. Straight males (by nature) display signs of nausea at notion of sexual contact with other males. By definition then, no 'denial' or 'dichotomy'
Outside of this group, some (you say 'many') males may indeed be 'mightily turned on by the thought of another male humiliating them sexually'. Probably true.
But however much you try to mix oil with water, Jim, ye just cannae alter the laws of physics/biology.
The silky-smooth soothing voice of reason and logic.
(You WILL feel much better and speak more sense while very securely tied-up...)
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31 May 09, 10:25 PM
RopeTopUK
UK(N), 3 yrs
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If the humiliation is the crucial factor then I see how it could work. If the guy is bisexual then being dominated by another man would be directly pleasurable on a sexual level; therefore no humiliation (of this kind that is under discussion.)
If he is totally hetero, though, the only pleasure he would derive from it would be purely from the humiliation (unless he had another reason for enjoying the experience, such as the satisfaction of pleasing his Domme).
Convoluted, yes, but comprehensible! http://RopeTop.com
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2 Jun 09, 8:51 PM
straight_lad_trainer
3 yrs
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RopeTopUK wrote:
If the humiliation is the crucial factor then I see how it could work. If the guy is bisexual then being dominated by another man would be directly pleasurable on a sexual level; therefore no humiliation ......
.....If he is totally hetero, though, the only pleasure he would derive from it would be purely from the humiliation .........
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..........and for the straight sub man it would be the ultimate humiliation, and therefore such a powerful turn on. |
2 Jun 09, 9:07 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
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str8lads_n_couples wrote:
..........and for the straight sub man it would be the ultimate humiliation, and therefore such a powerful turn on.
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I'm a straight guy who has been topped by gay blokes. Didn't find it humiliating at all, I was rather flattered, and enjoyed their skills.
And being switch, have topped gay, bi and straight males, without much, well, OK not that much, humiliation.
I find it brotherly, comradely, more than anything else. Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
The antidote to whinge threads...?
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2 Jun 09, 9:19 PM
sub_kd
UK(PO), 6 yrs |
This is something that has been holding a greater appeal for me in recent years since someone mentioned the possibility of it happening. I didn't really consider it at the time but more recently I have been and I think it would be most enjoyable if it was being directed for the pleasure of a woman. |
