28 May 09, 3:23 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs
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Mistress_Susannah wrote:
Well again, the majority of pro Dommes I know. I appreciate that may not be correct for the majority of all pro Dommes.... but it certainly is for the majority I know.
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Ditto, again.
And besides, so what? It's no other bugga's buisness except theirs. Quite why anyone thinks it is is beyond me. And why is it always men who seem to think this of any relevence?
Hmm. Maybe I should have used the 01 profile, and pointed out I am sub to my professional dominatrix girlfriend and have a number of 'lifestyle' subs of my own too. And that we are both pretty active on the scene, both in terms of clubs and other, more private things.
But either way, what does it matter? If a professional is good at what they do, then they are good at what they do. What they do do the rest of the time is their business. Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
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28 May 09, 3:27 PM Mistress_Susannah UK(SE), 7 yrs £ 
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Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
lisal wrote:
Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
There certainly were comprehensively equipped mistresses with access to dungeon facilities in times past for those who required all that and would pay a premium rate accordingly. It seems rather a shame that nowadays that seems to be almost *ALL* that is available as a paid service, as though the whole world of Ds/BDSM is a "one size fits all" that can be comprehensively covered by equipment and techniques.
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I think that's a tad unfair
I can think of quite a few dommes who work from their own place without huge amounts of equipment - and damn good they are too. And just because someone has a large amount of kit/dungeon doesn't necessarily mean that she isn't a great D/ser eitehr
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But if all the emphasis is on equipment/costumes/premises and "trained" skillsets how will anyone ever know? Purely by chance if they happen to book that particular PD for a £200 dungeon session that isn't what they wanted in the first place?
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Maybe I'm being a bit naive here, but I've never known the emphasis to be placed on equipment and skills. Maybe you've seen more websites that I have... but I've never felt under pressure to compete with the highly equiped dungeons. I specialise in D/s play.... I've never played with much equipment, that's hopefully very clear from my website. I've never known the "emphasis" to be on providing that for the general clientelle.
www.mistresssusannah.co.uk
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28 May 09, 3:32 PM lisal 9 yrs |
Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
lisal wrote:
Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
There certainly were comprehensively equipped mistresses with access to dungeon facilities in times past for those who required all that and would pay a premium rate accordingly. It seems rather a shame that nowadays that seems to be almost *ALL* that is available as a paid service, as though the whole world of Ds/BDSM is a "one size fits all" that can be comprehensively covered by equipment and techniques.
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I think that's a tad unfair
I can think of quite a few dommes who work from their own place without huge amounts of equipment - and damn good they are too. And just because someone has a large amount of kit/dungeon doesn't necessarily mean that she isn't a great D/ser eitehr
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But if all the emphasis is on equipment/costumes/premises and "trained" skillsets how will anyone ever know? Purely by chance if they happen to book that particular PD for a £200 dungeon session that isn't what they wanted in the first place?
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Cos you have the conversation with them - and you do your research. Look at the websites/see if they are reviewed anywhere/ask on PD forums. And you learn by experience
Generally (and I do realise this isn't always the case) the bad sessions people have had that I have seen quoted/discussed are because of lack of research/experience....
Edited 28 May 09, 3:33 PM by lisal
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28 May 09, 4:01 PM submissivebuffy 3 yrs |
femsup wrote:
No please don't.You want to keep things fresh and you might become jaded.
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how?? and why??
I have been a pro sub for a while now and live a full D/s lifestyle too.. My life is amazing and I feel fortunate enough to be a professional submissive too.. If the OP thinks anyone can do it, I would love to see him try!!! hence forth there are only a few pro subs around, Penny and Tara are two that spring to mind..xx
www.submissive-buffy.co.uk
Edited 28 May 09, 4:03 PM by submissivebuffy
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28 May 09, 5:59 PM Lucifer38 UK, 7 yrs 
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Eh? I didnt say anyone can do it, i said theres a lot of people who are. Hence the point of the OP, are some people "shonking" it...
submissivebuffy wrote:
how?? and why??
I have been a pro sub for a while now and live a full D/s lifestyle too.. My life is amazing and I feel fortunate enough to be a professional submissive too.. If the OP thinks anyone can do it, I would love to see him try!!! hence forth there are only a few pro subs around, Penny and Tara are two that spring to mind..xx
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Today is a Gift...............Thats why its called the fucking Present!!!
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28 May 09, 6:16 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs
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What does 'shonking' mean? Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
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28 May 09, 7:03 PM MistressKeene 3 yrs £ |
Jahc99 wrote:
MsDarklove_Hurts wrote:
ALL the pro dommes I know (and myself) are lifestylers and club/event goers.
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Ditto.
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Ditto again.
Sorry to arrive so late for the party but my tuppence worth says that the four PDs I have had close friendships with plus all those I am acquainted with in person are all lifestyle and have subs/slaves of their own.
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28 May 09, 7:36 PM lisal 9 yrs |
Jahc99 wrote:
But to get back to my point, why on earth does it matter? If they are good at what they do, then why does it bother anyone what they do outside of the dungeon? Smacks, to me, of those who would like to find some little angle to look down on professional bdsm. And, as ever, it's just one big fail.
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Well yes - quite
You beat me to this one. My domme isn't lifestyle but she sure as hell enjoys what she is doing and is also bloody good at it,
And, it does beg the question as to whether "being in the lifestyle" (whatever that actually means) makes you any better at BDSM than someone who isn't
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28 May 09, 8:28 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs
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Indeed, I know a fair few who have got into the 'lifestyle' stuff through pro domming too, because someone has spotted the attitude and talent.
If you are honest, enjoy it, play safe and deliver what you promise, I don't see why the route you arrived at that point makes a flying one's difference. Be you sub, switch or dom/me. Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
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28 May 09, 9:14 PM Mistress_Lady_Julia UK(LN), 3 yrs £
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Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
Mistress_Susannah wrote:
Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
Before you all start flaming me, I'm not suggesting by any means that *everybody* falls into the three categories, just that none of them is untypical of the PD world (certainly there are very few "pro & lifestyle" dommes who are truly "lifestyle" in that FemDom is any serious part of their private relationships).
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Really? Not amongst the pro Dommes I know who are virtually all lifestyle Dominas as well as pro Dommes. We must know different people!
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Yes really. I know that you don't personally fall into the category I described but, as someone who presumably knows quite a number of PD's just try a few simple sums.
How many PD's you know are actually sub to their partner?
How many who actually claim to have a "collared slave", really only have that person around as an occasional "play" partner to accompany them to clubs etc. (and possibly also still have some financial involvement even if it isn't strictly session fees), while by preference they actually share their real life with someone non-submissive?
How many never date sub men at all, not because of the quality of sub guys they know, but because they actually would find submissiveness an unattractive trait in a potential partner?
And then, how many actually have or are actively seeking a long term *primary* relationship with a sub - i.e. the person they share their real "lifestyle" with?
I know I could be wrong (after all, anything can happen once ), but I'll be very surprised if the actual statistics back your case.
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I am prepared to be counted as a statistic as I can say with absolute honesty that I am a dominant female who dates sub men etc etc etc mmm though I do wonder where this is going...
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