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male maids (95)

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13 May 09, 6:19 PM
cinder
UK(CR), 6 yrs
submark32 wrote:
sorry yes the humiliation aspect

cinder wrote:
Sorry which bit? The humiliation aspect?

I'm sure for some Dominants (of any gender) it can be yes.

What I was trying to say (and obviously failed!) is that the ultra-femme, maid type clothing could be humiliating for women too. Well at least for me anyway.

I would feel a bit silly. Feminisation or just feeling ridiculous? I don't know...Waffling a bit here....

N x

13 May 09, 6:22 PM
submark32
2 yrs
lol yeah I get what you mean though

cinder wrote:
submark32 wrote:
sorry yes the humiliation aspect

cinder wrote:
Sorry which bit? The humiliation aspect?

I'm sure for some Dominants (of any gender) it can be yes.

What I was trying to say (and obviously failed!) is that the ultra-femme, maid type clothing could be humiliating for women too. Well at least for me anyway.

I would feel a bit silly. Feminisation or just feeling ridiculous? I don't know...Waffling a bit here....

N x

13 May 09, 6:29 PM
Christina1394
UK(BS), 2 yrs
cinder wrote:
What I was trying to say (and obviously failed!) is that the ultra-femme, maid type clothing could be humiliating for women too. Well at least for me anyway.

Sure, it's not everyones cup of tea. Personally I'd feel silly dressed like a character out of the Village People.

However being a maid doesn't automatically equal being a sissy maid: as much as I like that type of thing myself, doing the housework in a frilly satin dress with a corset and seven layer net petticoat is a *touch* warm, and standing in 4" heels for two hours doing to ironing is...uncomfortable. Fine if you're being punished I guess but it's not practical for day-to-day work!

13 May 09, 6:46 PM
Pleximan
6 yrs
Christina, I think you need to look a bit harder! Mistress Divine in 'Bristol' loves putting sissymaids to work! She has a website.
13 May 09, 6:57 PM
MissKimberley
NL, 8 yrs


I think a man dressed in a maid's uniform or a slutty outfit is quite liberating for them. Most submissive men admire women and at times I've even known some to be envious of women's wide variety of 'roles', wardrobe choices etc.

I don't dress my subs to humiliate them, I use it as a tool to encourage their exploration of themselves and help them unlock desires and fantasies. Part of the femme dressing is because it goes against what society expects them to be. It may embarrass them at first, the fear of 'what if someone saw me like this' is humiliating and exciting at the same time.

But after a while, they enjoy it, they take on different roles and experiment with their feelings and desires. They are playing with societal expectations and often a long history of male namecalling (sissy, girl, gay, etc).

"You say that my way of thinking cannot be tolerated? What of it? The man who alters his way of thinking to suit others is a fool. My way of thinking is the result of my reflections. It is part of my inner being, the way I am made." Marquis de Sade

13 May 09, 7:15 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
cinder wrote:
What I was trying to say (and obviously failed!) is that the ultra-femme, maid type clothing could be humiliating for women too. Well at least for me anyway.

I would feel a bit silly. Feminisation or just feeling ridiculous? I don't know...Waffling a bit here....

In twenty three years I've seen three genuinely female maids.

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13 May 09, 7:33 PM
forest59
UK(NG), 6 yrs
Miss_Despotic wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

I've dressed as a female for more years than i care to remember. I feel more confident and empowered dressed as a female than i do as a dressed as a male.

I do dress my subs in female clothing, although i do it to define their role rather than to make them more submissive.

13 May 09, 8:14 PM
collector
UK, 8 yrs
Above everything liberating 'self' against rigid culture on its own is a brilliant act.

Also dispute on 'degrading'! male into femininity as Ms Despotic wrote is quite understandable. I however see this differently; In my opinion degration comes in here because of his masculinity is taken away as he can only be useful on lower tasks such as domestic servitude rather than being a bull.

As Miss Kimberley wrote that most men admire women. One can believe in that women are much more aesthetic then men and even the male organ can be seen as a deformation of a bodypart. Ưn this case as an inferior sex, male serves to his domme by eliminating his masculinity. One way of doing it is perhaps to accept recieving hormones to reduce his organ size,create curves on his body...etc.

Most women wouldn't be turned on by the feminized male and that is probably because of lack of perfect generic femininity in him. This situation also creates another humiliating element(which can be seen erotic) and in my view it doesn't touch female supremacy at all.

Finally I must emphasize that all the points raised above are just perspectives and most probably doesnot show any conformity with existing average gender politics.

13 May 09, 11:43 PM
silklover2
7 yrs
Christina1394 wrote:
cinder wrote:
What I was trying to say (and obviously failed!) is that the ultra-femme, maid type clothing could be humiliating for women too. Well at least for me anyway.

Sure, it's not everyones cup of tea. Personally I'd feel silly dressed like a character out of the Village People.

However being a maid doesn't automatically equal being a sissy maid: as much as I like that type of thing myself, doing the housework in a frilly satin dress with a corset and seven layer net petticoat is a *touch* warm, and standing in 4" heels for two hours doing to ironing is...uncomfortable. Fine if you're being punished I guess but it's not practical for day-to-day work!

Who says it has to be practical? I think many subs relish the impracticality of it in some ways! It just takes a little longer (and more discomfort for the sub) to get the work done, but as long as it is done to a good standard that's the most important thing surely.

I have no experience of male maids, but I've made a female sub do housework for me, wearing a tightly-laced corset, full petticoat and high heels (no satin dress though, so that may have helped avoid the overheating problem!). She also had nipple clamps on and was gagged for the whole time, and I think she found it a good experience, and certainly felt submissive during it, without it being humiliating.

Silklover2 :)

14 May 09, 12:03 AM
condemned
UK(M), 11 yrs
Miss_Despotic wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

I think someone touched on this already,i have just come home and flitted through the thread.

I don't think the man feels 'lesser' by being dressed as a woman in the context that women are 'lesser' so being dressed as one makes him the same.It is the emasculation of himself that does that,his male identity taken away and added to that made to do menial tedious work.

It is a difficult one to put into words and as with most things in life people view the same subject differently.

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