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| 12 May 09, 8:10 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs  |
Incidentally, if any male maids would like to serve on The Boat, they might do well to drop me a memo. The Boat, one of the best SM/Fetish parties of the year, sails at 9pm on Saturday 20th June. Tickets are £25, click here for more details: http://www.the-firm.org/Boat.htm | ||
| 12 May 09, 8:11 PM Degenerate  UK(M), 4 yrs   |
More submissive need not mean lesser or degraded, or be forced. You're talking about a particular kind of forced fem scene which I wouldn't enjoy either for the same reasons - I wouldn't even equate it with being a maid. I think lots of people of all genders feel more submissive when they are dressed a certain way, particularly if they are very accessible. Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk Edited 12 May 09, 8:14 PM by Degenerate | ||
| 12 May 09, 8:18 PM Miss_Despotic UK(M), 4 yrs   |
We've agreed on something. Shit. Hell must have frozen over | ||
| 12 May 09, 8:23 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs  |
Great! When I die I can learn to skate. I like being my own worst enemy, because I know where I live and what I'm going to do next. | ||
| 12 May 09, 8:31 PM Christina1394 UK(BS), 2 yrs |
I understand what you're saying, and as a TV (that is, as a non-BDSM TV. Yes I can be both!) I share your view. At the same time I can understand that for many men it is...unsettling. Yes, I think that's a good word for it. I can't talk for myself because my dynamic is probably different, but I can easily imagine that many men are not comfortable with the idea of wearing womens clothes, in the same way that many men would not be comfortable being pegged by a women with a strapon. It goes against their learned gender roll. | ||
| 13 May 09, 1:23 AM tokyoyearzero UK(N), 4 yrs |
There is nothing degrading or humiliating for me in dressing en-femme, either in a servitude capacity or just for fun. I've always found it disturbing at best when pros, in particular, seem to make a big thing about using feminisation as a humiliating ritual, rather than a celebratory one. Surely if you believe in female superiority, and adore the feminine power of women, and want to serve a woman totally and unconditionally, then dressing and aspiring to be like them in terms of look, behaviour, pose, and mannerisms does not equate with something that one should be embarrassed or ridiculed for. My new Dominant has told me that she's had so many frustrating experiences with her previous subs who didn't enjoy dressing up. It certainly isn't for me to question other people's desires etc, but it would seem that there are a great deal of sub males who don't enjoy dressing en-femme (bully to them!). So perhaps I can see why or how a woman might enjoy using feminisation as a way of making them submissive and broken to a point. However they could also I'm sure do that by making them dress as bunny rabbits or Mr Blobby or something equally stupid and uncomfortable. Likewise I have come across some adorable Dominant women who just don't get turned on by seeing a submissive male in their lacy panties and suspenders (crazy I know). The point is that it's one of those 'each to their own' scenarios. Personally I could never submit to a woman who thought my desire to dress en-femme was linked in some strange and bizarre way to wanting to feel humiliated or stupid. Rather I am drawn to women who enjoy and revel in my love for all things feminine. It is a celebration not something to be taunted over. And I just feel especially lucky and fortunate to have finally met a woman who sees my feminisation as absolutely gorgeous to her pleasure as my owner, protector and enforcer. Edited 13 May 09, 1:52 AM by tokyoyearzero | ||
| 13 May 09, 4:24 AM Mistress_Avralivia UK(RG), 4 yrs £ |
you know you'll always have to do your own housework..... right ?
Senno Ekto Gamat | ||
| 13 May 09, 7:12 AM maid_irene UK(LN), 6 yrs |
I agree, I have never felt "degraded" by being dressed, fearful yes, and I think this is the main source of excitement for the TV fetishist. But then I'm no fetishist about women's clothes. In my service I felt empowered by my maid's position, I actually feel useful rather than a redundant wheel.
So tell me I'm wierd, and I'll agree with you Hugs, irene. "Service which is rendered without joy helps neither the servant or the served. But all other pleasures and possessions pale into nothingness before service that is rendered in a spirit of joy." | ||
| 13 May 09, 7:43 AM Soul_Alloy UK(PR), 4 yrs |
Well put, in some ways for me it's an emphasis of it, I can sub without it, but feel eminently more desirable and able to submit when cross dressed (though this is obviously not always the case) "Luck! Ha! It's rude isn't it..." | ||
| 13 May 09, 10:52 AM Degenerate UK(M), 4 yrs |
There is nothing weird about that - maids are very useful.. my only negative feeling in this regard is that I have never had a maid of my own *sniff*. I keep wondering whether I could train lucy for maid service, but then I cannot imagine her being that useful. This said, she is getting very good at some basic tea service protocols. De Sign up to CAAN's statement www.caan.org.uk |
