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male maids (95)

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Fri 8 May 09, 8:44 AM
submark32
2 yrs
I have noticed that quite a few Dommes like to train there subs as maids and make them more femme. Does this in turn make men more submissive? having a light case of ocd myself I am thinking I may make an excellent domestic slave.
12 May 09, 7:24 PM
thatboyspike
UK(N), 2 yrs
I've done a bit of domestic service which I guess could be classed as being a "maid" as such, have never done it with the stereotypical uniform on though although I assume that would be more humiliating rather than increasing submission.

Why do I enjoy the domestic thing? I like to obey and follow orders even for seemingly the most menial of tasks not just in the bedroom, giving up control is my "thing".

Does that make me MORE submissive than others? I don't think so, just makes me a different kind of submissive than others.

12 May 09, 7:36 PM
Christina1394
UK(BS), 2 yrs
submark32 wrote:
I have noticed that quite a few Dommes like to train there subs as maids and make them more femme.

They do? I wish that was true. The number of Dommes I've met who have the slightest interest in me as a TV, let alone as a maid, is roughly 0. Male subs who are interested in this form of D/s vastly outnumber female dommes. Seems odd to me: you can take a nice pretty man, put him in a frilly dress and make him cry. What's not to like?!

12 May 09, 7:48 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 4 yrs

Maids of all genders are a good idea, with and without frilly dresses. I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

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Edited 12 May 09, 7:49 PM by Degenerate

12 May 09, 7:54 PM
Lola_the_Lady
3 yrs
Christina1394 wrote:
submark32 wrote:
I have noticed that quite a few Dommes like to train there subs as maids and make them more femme.

They do? I wish that was true. The number of Dommes I've met who have the slightest interest in me as a TV, let alone as a maid, is roughly 0. Male subs who are interested in this form of D/s vastly outnumber female dommes. Seems odd to me: you can take a nice pretty man, put him in a frilly dress and make him cry. What's not to like?!

What's not to like indeed Christina? I for one have a great love of a submissive male feminised in satin. Exquisite and so much fun. I also know other dominant women who feel the same, those who feminise solely as part of humiliation, and those not interested in it at all.

Each of us has our own aesthetic taste, reason to dominate that individual at that time and desired effect to achieve - to name but a few variables.

I think your score of nil demands a recount.

12 May 09, 7:55 PM
Miss_Despotic
UK(M), 4 yrs

Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

12 May 09, 8:01 PM
Lola_the_Lady
3 yrs
Miss_Despotic wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

I have had the honour to play with a great friend who makes a beautiful woman when feminised. He responds in a more naturally submissive manner, but this does not equal degraded.

12 May 09, 8:03 PM
thatboyspike
UK(N), 2 yrs
Miss_Despotic wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

Speaking only from my own personal view point and not that of any kind of expert I feel that the degradation/lesser feelings come more from societies views of the stereotypical Male/Female relationship and how the genders should interact. That is something many of us have been brought up with and therefore we cannot help but to feel slightly degraded upon being feminised as such.

I am a big believer in Female Superiority but still feel degraded as such when any kind of feminisation takes place, not because I view females as "lower" but because general society would certainly turn their noses up at a young man in a dress being taken from behind by a Woman.

12 May 09, 8:03 PM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

Miss_Despotic wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I don't think being feminine is a naturally more submissive thing, but definitely think lots of people feel more submissive when feminised. xx

See that's the bit I'd have an issue with. The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

See I was wondering about posting something along these lines as well, but I reckon it might merit it's own thread. It does seem a little odd that humiliation and submissiveness are so often tied to femininity in DS play. I mean if you dress a woman in man's clothes it's not considered humiliation.

I like being my own worst enemy, because I know where I live and what I'm going to do next.

12 May 09, 8:03 PM
Christina1394
UK(BS), 2 yrs
Lola_the_Lady wrote:
Christina1394 wrote:
The number of Dommes I've met who have the slightest interest in me as a TV, let alone as a maid, is roughly 0.

I think your score of nil demands a recount.

*Picks up chalk* *SQEEEEK* There!

I probably should have clarified that I meant "met on the scene in and around Bristol", but I'll not be fussy!

Miss_Despotic wrote:
The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

Why are you conflating "submissive" with "lesser"? For me the concept of being a maid to a Domme is not degrading at all. I'm not a doormat.

I'm sure there are Dommes (& Doms) and subs out there who enjoy "forced" feminisation, but from what I've seen it's almost entirely a role play scenario and not exactly degrading for the sub. It's the same as a masochist pleading for the dom to stop but secretly wishing for them to continue: it's all part of the scene.

12 May 09, 8:10 PM
Miss_Despotic
UK(M), 4 yrs

Christina1394 wrote:

Miss_Despotic wrote:
The idea that a man feels degraded or 'lesser' because he's being forced to dress as a woman, does not sit well with me at all.

Why are you conflating "submissive" with "lesser"? For me the concept of being a maid to a Domme is not degrading at all. I'm not a doormat.

I'm not saying that submissive=lesser, I'm submissive myself. Nor I am saying that the concept of you, or anyone else for that matter, being a maid to a domme is degrading. What I am saying is that as a woman I find the concept of feminisation, as a way of humiliating a male sub, insulting.

Edited for punctuation errors that would cause Hells_bells to be cross

Edited 12 May 09, 8:21 PM by Miss_Despotic

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