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Are there really pro-subs? (92)

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4 May 09, 9:15 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
la_statuesque wrote:
are there really pro-subs? And if so what do they actually do?

There's pro subs and pro spankees - spankees usually get their bottoms spanked, paddled, slippered and caned along CP lines. Submissives are a lot rarer and we offer full BDSM play along with the CP practices. Most pro spankees & pro subs of which their are roughly around 70 odd full time in the UK do not offer any sexual services. There are also escorts who offer spanking. Most of us also offer switching as a lot of the CP clients ask for it, it is very rare that you get a BDSM client wanting to switch. Many CP clients like roleplay in either a school, office or domestic scene and setting. There is a lot more call for CP than there is BDSM play.

la_statuesque wrote:
A friend made the comment that she'd not cope with being a pro-sub because of the pain she'd have to accept, and there probably wasn't enough money in it to recompense for accepting massive canings.

But is that what being a pro-sub is about? Surely that's being a pro-masochist?

I'll take a lot more pain from a client who I gel with who I can submit myself too, but you have to enjoy pain and be a natural sub to start with. One hour of spanking, paddling, flogging and caning is a lot, especially with a client who just wants to whack whack whack with no let up! And it's not like playing with your own dom who knows what you like and how you like it, you have to do what the client wants and hope that he's not too hard on you and if so can accept he needs to slow down or hit less hard.

There isn't enough money in it for my to accept massive canings, I'll do hard flogging and spanking, but not hard paddling and caning or I'm so bruised and sore I can't work, some subs will offer it BUT will charge heavily. I can always turn down a client who asks for hard caning or sex etc and I've had to stop clients who've caned my thighs, paddled the small of my back etc and have a polite word!

la_statuesque wrote:
A pain acceptor perhaps, for someone you care about and need to please, because your nature demands.

But I have friends who are submissive and are hardly ever in a "need to accept pain" situation, because the style of D and s in their relationship does not include s/m.

Good call, my nature does demand and I like being in a full bdsm relationship as I need pain and to me more extreme pain from my Master n Mistress is in my eye more fulfulling for me and I feel I am pleasing them more when pushing my limits, although I enjoy doing vanilla things with my Master and Mistress I do love our play sessions.

la_statuesque wrote:
I'm already flinching, waiting for the withering responses but perhaps it's a matter of semantics.

It's a valid and interesting question, withering responses are reserved for stupid questions lol!

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4 May 09, 9:18 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
Maguire wrote:
I don't know of any male ones. But for sure, there are female ones. (more usually dommes who do a bit of switching) They submit.

I can assure you that out of the 70 odd pro spankees and subs working full time in the UK although many of us switch we are nearly all submissives who switch and there are extremely few who advertise as dommes who switch, Mistress Alina is one of the few.

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4 May 09, 9:19 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
Mistress_Susannah wrote:
There are some female pro submissives who will play in a more D/s environment - I believe Tara Red is one of those.... waits for her to post.

Waves hello to Mistress_Susannah!

Yes I've been away for bank hol.

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4 May 09, 9:26 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
Maguire wrote:
The general rule is that you get to be 'dominant' with a professional (let's not split hairs with the names) submissive.

It starts at around £200 in Mancs for 45 minutes and if you want to cane her, it's a tenner a whack. You do the maths.

Pure cash drives it, not masochism.

Don't know of anyone charging those prices, even Buffy at the Manchester Dungeon is cheaper that that though she does charge more for a heavy caning as she can take it, BUT note a heavy caning she can't work for days afterwards.

I've got a photo of me with a completely black and yellow bottom from a severe paddling which I charged good money for where I could not work for 12 days afterwards and even then there was still bruising left, the photo was already removed on another website and I actually don't wish to offer that service anyway so not much point in posting it even if it was approved on ic!

Pure cash - no definitely not! You HAVE to enjoy the job or all the new girls that advertise would not disappear again after only a few weeks! Or cry when they do their first DVD shoot and have to stop.

The cash is good but we are worth it for what we go through!

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4 May 09, 9:32 PM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
Maguire wrote:
For sure, some may enjoy it, (there's someone for every job) but not that I've seen. Simple money transaction for a job of work, though I've seen tears afterwards.

Tara_Red wrote:
withering responses are reserved for stupid questions lol!

You've obviously not seen me!

Or Bad Penny.

Or Buffy.

Or Georgie Ryder.

Or Miss Wynter, or Donna, or Lesley Rose.

I could go on and on!

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4 May 09, 9:37 PM
rabbot
12 yrs
Maguire wrote:
I don't know of any male ones. But for sure, there are female ones.

I expect if there are any male ones it will be in the gay world because I can't see a woman paying to domme when there are so many willing male subs around. :)

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5 May 09, 6:57 AM
mr_nicholas
UK(TW), 5 yrs
tymeup wrote:
Maguire wrote:
I don't know of any male ones. But for sure, there are female ones.

I expect if there are any male ones it will be in the gay world because I can't see a woman paying to domme when there are so many willing male subs around. :)

Surely there's a 'market' for a 'gentleman' sub who'll turn up on time, be 100 % charming and obedient, discuss the Ladys' requirements, take what the Lady wants to do to him, give Her the pleasure She seeks without trying to get his 'rocks off' , talk inteligently afterwards, and leave without begging to return or pestering Her , ?

Edited 5 May 09, 6:59 AM by mr_nicholas

5 May 09, 7:37 AM
subtler
3 yrs
Slave50 wrote:
tymeup wrote:
Maguire wrote:
I don't know of any male ones. But for sure, there are female ones.

I expect if there are any male ones it will be in the gay world because I can't see a woman paying to domme when there are so many willing male subs around. :)

Surely there's a 'market' for a 'gentleman' sub who'll turn up on time, be 100 % charming and obedient, discuss the Ladys' requirements, take what the Lady wants to do to him, give Her the pleasure She seeks without trying to get his 'rocks off' , talk inteligently afterwards, and leave without begging to return or pestering Her , ?

Yes. It's called visiting a Pro-Domme, and treating Her with respect.

:)

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5 May 09, 7:41 AM
tv_Reann
3 yrs
Slave50 wrote:
tymeup wrote:
Maguire wrote:
I don't know of any male ones. But for sure, there are female ones.

I expect if there are any male ones it will be in the gay world because I can't see a woman paying to domme when there are so many willing male subs around. :)

Surely there's a 'market' for a 'gentleman' sub who'll turn up on time, be 100 % charming and obedient, discuss the Ladys' requirements, take what the Lady wants to do to him, give Her the pleasure She seeks without trying to get his 'rocks off' , talk inteligently afterwards, and leave without begging to return or pestering Her , ?

I suspect that there is a market for the gentleman sub you describe, probably from women in executive roles who may not have the time to trawl through profiles on this or similar sites. The problem would be to get ones services promoted so that it looked like a professional service. In this respect Pro Doms are well catered for.

Edited to add following

The professionalism of the service offered would be the hardest part to get across to potential clients. I all ready have this problem with the construction Service I provide to the BDSM community, people find it hard to believe that all I want to do is to do the work and be paid for it.

Edited 5 May 09, 8:13 AM by tv_Reann

5 May 09, 6:10 PM
submissivebuffy
3 yrs
Tara_Red wrote:
Maguire wrote:
The general rule is that you get to be 'dominant' with a professional (let's not split hairs with the names) submissive.

It starts at around £200 in Mancs for 45 minutes and if you want to cane her, it's a tenner a whack. You do the maths.

Pure cash drives it, not masochism.

Don't know of anyone charging those prices, even Buffy at the Manchester Dungeon is cheaper that that though she does charge more for a heavy caning as she can take it, BUT note a heavy caning she can't work for days afterwards.

I've got a photo of me with a completely black and yellow bottom from a severe paddling which I charged good money for where I could not work for 12 days afterwards and even then there was still bruising left, the photo was already removed on another website and I actually don't wish to offer that service anyway so not much point in posting it even if it was approved on ic!

Pure cash - no definitely not! You HAVE to enjoy the job or all the new girls that advertise would not disappear again after only a few weeks! Or cry when they do their first DVD shoot and have to stop.

The cash is good but we are worth it for what we go through!

thankyou tara .. here here !!

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