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Outed by Kirstie Allsopp and NOTW (90)

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4 May 09, 12:18 AM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

MsDemmie wrote:
This seems an appropriate time to thank all of you for your comments, mails, memos and offers of support and for all the help and advice I have been offered.

The real casualties here are members of extended family - my children's partners families, their friends and families and workmates and fellow students who were unaware of the nature of the holiday accommodation I offer. Those complications and ramifications have already caused a great deal of upset and damage and will take far longer to settle.

So sorry to hear this MsDemmie hope things settle soon :-(

De

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4 May 09, 12:20 AM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

I notice there is only a mere handful of comments there.. mine not included.

Wish I knew what to do about this lot. Fighting the press is not easy, due to their position.

MsDemmie is there anything you would like us to do? (apart from support you by commenting on the piece and here)

De

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Edited 4 May 09, 12:21 AM by Degenerate

4 May 09, 1:27 AM
x_Thunder_x
UK(E), 9 yrs


Ishmael wrote:
I think one thing to keep in mind (because it can be easy to get sidetracked sometimes) is that we live in a democracy, and a national newspaper is prosecuting a campaign against us because its editors don't like our sexuality. That is utterly unjust.

The government is frightened of the press, especially of that bit owned by Rupert Murdoch, so they don't want to take them on, but since they are our ellected representatives, it is up to us to *make* them uphold our rights.

You have to remember that New Labour owe everything to Rupert Murdoch - at one time the Murdoch papers supported the Conservatives until they said that they were tightening the rules on Cross Media ownership and the emerging New Labour said they would relax them - Murdoch then changed virtually overnight and the Sun in particular played a great part in winning the first NL election

Even in 2001 as the Guardian said "Ministers have abandoned attempts to tighten the rules on cross-media ownership, fearing a backlash from the media magnate Rupert Murdoch before the election."

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4 May 09, 1:46 AM
Demmie
PT, 12 yrs

Degenerate wrote:
I notice there is only a mere handful of comments there.. mine not included.

Wish I knew what to do about this lot. Fighting the press is not easy, due to their position.

MsDemmie is there anything you would like us to do? (apart from support you by commenting on the piece and here)

De

At the moment there is not a lot I or anyone else can do - Bank holidays are such an easy time to strike as you know that the object of your strike cannot get legal assistance or advice until the Tuesday.

I intend to talk to the Press Complaints Commission on Tuesday morning and see what recourse (if any) I have available through them.

I will also be talking to my local police about the behavior of NOTW journalists over the last week - after having spoken to a lot of the other villagers and the aggressive questioning some of them received and the general feeling of harassment felt by a lot of them.

Depending on the outcome of those two meetings I may take further legal advice - before talking to NOTW own legal department.

Once again - thank you all for your support and advice.

Edited for typo.

"Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph." Haile Selassie, 1892-1975

Edited 4 May 09, 1:47 AM by Demmie

4 May 09, 1:50 AM
maya_lila
UK(SE), 5 yrs
lil_Pup wrote:
It's a story that is no story at all. I fail to see how it's in the public interest at all.

Yeah exactly. Christ I really hate the media at the moment.

"It is never too late to be what you might have been." ~ George Eliot
"How many cares one loses when one decides not to be something but to be someone" ~ Coco Chanel

4 May 09, 9:45 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Really sorry you've been treated like this. Horrendous. Roll on the day when consensual BDSM activities are regarded as perfectly acceptable behaviour and nothing one would hide. I do sympathise with being outed to family, friends etc. Hope you can hold your head high and be proud of providing a special and unique facility.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

Edited 4 May 09, 9:47 AM by wonderer

4 May 09, 1:03 PM
SirOpenSource
UK(E), 6 yrs


MsDemmie wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
I notice there is only a mere handful of comments there.. mine not included.

Wish I knew what to do about this lot. Fighting the press is not easy, due to their position.

MsDemmie is there anything you would like us to do? (apart from support you by commenting on the piece and here)

De

At the moment there is not a lot I or anyone else can do - Bank holidays are such an easy time to strike as you know that the object of your strike cannot get legal assistance or advice until the Tuesday.

I intend to talk to the Press Complaints Commission on Tuesday morning and see what recourse (if any) I have available through them.

I will also be talking to my local police about the behavior of NOTW journalists over the last week - after having spoken to a lot of the other villagers and the aggressive questioning some of them received and the general feeling of harassment felt by a lot of them.

Depending on the outcome of those two meetings I may take further legal advice - before talking to NOTW own legal department.

Once again - thank you all for your support and advice.

Edited for typo.

I await the day that a newspaper such as NOTW realises how much extra copy it could sell with headlines supporting alternative lifestyles. Worded in a clever way it could be both profitable to them and of benefit to those who are currently falling victim to such a money making scam as tabloid newspapers.

SOS

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4 May 09, 1:46 PM
sirguym
UK(HR), 6 yrs
MsDemmie wrote:
This seems an appropriate time to thank all of you for your comments, mails, memos and offers of support and for all the help and advice I have been offered.

The real casualties here are members of extended family - my children's partners families, their friends and families and workmates and fellow students who were unaware of the nature of the holiday accommodation I offer. Those complications and ramifications have already caused a great deal of upset and damage and will take far longer to settle.

I/we have been there and felt that.

One of the most difficult things was our own children, and the parents of and children of friends, learning of what we were doing and taking the wrong messages from it, due to press spin.

If they really wanted to protect children they would take that into account: but of course they don't, they just want to sell newspapers and win political clout. So it's easy to jump on a minority unable to adequately defend themselves.

Which is why we have to organise, so we can defend ourselves as our gay friends have already done.

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4 May 09, 4:34 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

Hear Hear!

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Get up, stand up - Bob Marley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0
All you need is love - The Beatles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxTpsIVzzo
Glad To Be Gay - Tom Robinson Band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHG2LJGfEdw

4 May 09, 5:29 PM
DarkLordDredd
UK, 10 yrs

MsDemmie wrote:

At the moment there is not a lot I or anyone else can do - Bank holidays are such an easy time to strike as you know that the object of your strike cannot get legal assistance or advice until the Tuesday.

I intend to talk to the Press Complaints Commission on Tuesday morning and see what recourse (if any) I have available through them.

I will also be talking to my local police about the behavior of NOTW journalists over the last week - after having spoken to a lot of the other villagers and the aggressive questioning some of them received and the general feeling of harassment felt by a lot of them.

Depending on the outcome of those two meetings I may take further legal advice - before talking to NOTW own legal department.

Once again - thank you all for your support and advice.

Edited for typo.

Good luck with the PCC, unless your royalty or someone they like you've got little hope of getting them to do anything.

I'd be looking along the lines of libel if they've quoted you as giving statements which you haven't. The same for the locals as well, nothing like a village group action to put the wind up the Wapping mafia!

Never ever accused of knowingly ever doing anything nice! :-p

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