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slave v's sub (29)

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Sun 26 Apr 09, 6:40 PM
MasterWolfOne
UK(ML), 6 yrs
I have always been submissive with very little dominance. I have always seen being a slave to someone as giving up all independance, no longer having a safe word and being controlled by a Master.

I have never been really keen on the word slave or being one. I know everyone preception of being a slave is different, but my question is this. How does everyone perceive slavery or becoming a slave to another? Do you still have a say, a safe word etc.

This is just something I have had rattling around my head for a while. I know Masters' definition but what is yours?

sapphire.

edited for grammar

Edited Sun 26 Apr 09, 8:26 PM by MasterWolfOne

26 Apr 09, 7:11 PM
chartreuse
UK(BA), 6 yrs

MasterWolfOne wrote:
slave v's sub

I have always been submissive with very little dominance. I have always seen being a slave to someone as giving up all independance, no longer having a safe word and being in complete control of a Master.

I have never been really keen on the word slave or being one. I know everyone preception of being a slave is different, but my question is this. How does everyone perceive slavery or becoming a slave to another? Do you still have a say, a safe word etc.

This is just something I have had rattling around my head for a while. I know Masters' definition but what is yours?

sapphire.

I don't think anyone should become a slave until their dominant knows them well enough to be able to dispose of the possible need for a safe word.

To me.... a slave has no say in what they do or what happens but they are able make suggestions, voice their opinions and talk about things, it's up to their dominant to decide whether something will/should be done or not.

Actually, the same applies to subs except for one small difference... someone can be a submissive from the outset of a D/s relationship.

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26 Apr 09, 8:44 PM
WykD_Dave
UK(DE), 9 yrs

What again?

I mean seriously this whole same old thing again?

Here's one

And another

By no means the only ones. There are dozens of these threads covering the same ground over and over.

Try it, you just might like it.

26 Apr 09, 8:48 PM
MasterWolfOne
UK(ML), 6 yrs
If it was so clean cut and dried then there wouldn't be as many threads. And if there are so many threads don't read another then.

and erm oh I am very sorry I offended you by bringing up another.

To all those who do wish to answer please excuse me but I am p'd off with people dictating to others what they can type and not. Thats why I very rarely post.

sapphire.

WykD_Dave wrote:
What again?

I mean seriously this whole same old thing again?

Here's one

And another

By no means the only ones. There are dozens of these threads covering the same ground over and over.

26 Apr 09, 8:49 PM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
WykD_Dave wrote:
What again?

I mean seriously this whole same old thing again?

Here's one

And another

By no means the only ones. There are dozens of these threads covering the same ground over and over.

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Jury foreman "We find the defendant not guilty - but we'd like to hear the evidence again."

26 Apr 09, 8:59 PM
chartreuse
UK(BA), 6 yrs

I agree... IMO, yours is an understandable response.

MasterWolfOne wrote:
If it was so clean cut and dried then there wouldn't be as many threads. And if there are so many threads don't read another then.

and erm oh I am very sorry I offended you by bringing up another.

To all those who do wish to answer please excuse me but I am p'd off with people dictating to others what they can type and not. Thats why I very rarely post.

sapphire.

"Truth is stranger than fiction."
"It is better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not."

26 Apr 09, 9:35 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

MasterWolfOne wrote:
slave v's sub

. How does everyone perceive slavery or becoming a slave to another? Do you still have a say, a safe word etc.

No.

De

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26 Apr 09, 10:19 PM
prettyname
UK(NW), 11 yrs
WykD_Dave wrote:
What again?

I mean seriously this whole same old thing again?

Here's one

And another

By no means the only ones. There are dozens of these threads covering the same ground over and over.

What, again? Another arsey rude post? Why not just post the links without the attitude.

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26 Apr 09, 10:32 PM
Jay_kes
UK(S), 10 yrs
prettyname wrote:
WykD_Dave wrote:
What again?

I mean seriously this whole same old thing again?

Here's one

And another

By no means the only ones. There are dozens of these threads covering the same ground over and over.

What, again? Another arsey rude post? Why not just post the links without the attitude.

Because that wouldn't be very impressive? ;o)

To the OP, it is whatever the people concerned decide it is. One of the joys of this whole lifestyle choice, is that there are no rules.

In M/s terms, the difference between a sub and a slave is a very broad grey area. Ask 100 different M/s couples and you'll likely to get 100 different interpretations.....at least!

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26 Apr 09, 10:43 PM
OnCallSlut
3 yrs
I am so with you Prettyname, surely everybody's opinion is worth something.. for the same reasons, I am reluctant to post xx

Happiness is an attitude. We either make ourselves miserable, or happy and strong. The amount of work is the same.

26 Apr 09, 11:15 PM
misfit
UK, 3 yrs
MasterWolfOne wrote:
slave v's sub

I have always been submissive with very little dominance. I have always seen being a slave to someone as giving up all independance, no longer having a safe word and being controlled by a Master.

I have never been really keen on the word slave or being one. I know everyone preception of being a slave is different, but my question is this. How does everyone perceive slavery or becoming a slave to another? Do you still have a say, a safe word etc.

This is just something I have had rattling around my head for a while. I know Masters' definition but what is yours?

sapphire.

edited for grammar

I have no problem with seeing the same threads as they often involve different people so can yield more information.

I consider myself a submissive as I am submissive sexually and I am not owned as I have never been in a relationship with a Dominant woman, most of my partners have come from a vanilla landscape. I have however had play sessions with Dominant people and I am currently using safe words as one I do not know them so well.........yet and two I am a lightweight when it comes to pain.

I am also very independent so for me to become a slave the person involved would have to be very special indeed. I do however act out the role of a slave, giving up all independence, with certain people for short periods of time so I know I can do it temporarily but not sure if I could full time but at the moment I am just having fun and getting to know people.

M

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