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Stocking/Suspenders <sigh> (32)

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Fri 17 Apr 09, 12:43 PM
star_phoenix
8 yrs
Most men like women in stockings, suspenders, skirts, high heels, corsets. They say it's feminine. Sometimes I enjoy dressing up to please a man like this.

I don't like short skirts as I'm not slim and my legs are fat but i dont mind a nice knee length skirt.

I hate being dressed for clubs how He wishes me to look as I feel stereotyped, looking like how most of the other women are there.

So here is my dilemma, sometimes I feel like a sex toy, I know I am. He dresses me up and does things to me, displays me, inserts things in and i know he enjoys this therefore I enjoy pleasing Him but somes, just sometimes I feel like objectification has gone too far. I feel like an object.

So if i get orders, please wear stocking, suspenders, 4/5 inch heels, skirt, open buttoned blouse, hair down, make up and perfume, sometimes I feel... not again.

I know I'm a well cherished and loved slave but sometimes I just feel like a stereotype. "I enjoy you looking like that" Master smiles, "I'm proud to be with you, show you off" but inside I feel tired, so very tired.

He wants to go to a club, I can see how I will be dressed. I've asked him, please put me in something different. How so slave, He smiled, erm.. in a burka( however its spelt) naked underneath? something different? Maybe I will put you in a full mask slave, Master said.

Do any other women feel this way? I want to be me, not just me packaged in male fantasy underwear, not all the time.

star x

17 Apr 09, 12:50 PM
janusxuk
UK(HP), 7 yrs

Yes, it's a cliche almost as much as the too-tight leather trousers and leather waistcoat are for men isn't it.

Hopefully in reading this he will give you the option to dress as you see fit for him one night?

That being said (and I don't know you or him so this may be way off beam, aplogies if so), have you considered that he does not see you as you see yourself? That he sees (and enjoys) you as you are now, not what you think you were 25-30 years ago. He will also see the big picture of you, not every minute imperfection that causes so much worry. Relax into his enjoyment of you but ring the changes now and again too.

HTH

Desperately in need of something perverse and witty to put in this space - where is Stephen Fry when you need him?

17 Apr 09, 12:52 PM
Katinkia
UK(HU), 10 yrs
I feel your pain. I don't have a Master myself but in my long search, I have hated it when the subject of clothing comes up. Too many cliches. Too many things that i'm just not into. Im the kinda girl that just likes wearing dresses and boots. Yeah, pretty underwear but nothing like all this typical male fantasy stuff.

I would wear stockings I guess, but I doubt i'd look good in them and if it was all the time it would quite simply annoy the hell out of me. I hate feeling like a dolly, I'm a person. I guess it kinda goes with the territory though.

I doubt also, id ever get into a fetish club. I have no desire to be dressed the same way as everyone else. I like pretty dresses and if im not going to be let in like that... well i'll never get to go probably.

www.suberotica.co.uk

17 Apr 09, 1:08 PM
TeddyXxBearies
UK(CR), 4 yrs

Has your Master seen this posting ? Maybe it'll make Him aware of how You really feel about this.

I don't know the dynamics of Your relationship, but surely a compromise would seem the logical solution ? J.

Better To Be Hated For What You Are-
Than To Be Loved For What You Are Not ! J.Xxx

17 Apr 09, 1:11 PM
Mr_Jones_Again
UK(CM), 3 yrs
This subject is a real minefield, for the Master as well as the submissive.

Many years ago (without thinking it through) I told a sub "I only want to see you in white or turquoise underwear, stockings and suspenders."

As a result, she got rid of all her underwear that wasn't of these colours and thereafter only bought those colours.

That wasn't good for her or me. Eventually I got bored and she resented not having the colours SHE liked.

These days I'm more careful. I use the expression "If you want to be sure of turning me on, wear white, If you want to be sure to seduce me, wear turquoise. I prefer stockings over hold ups and hold ups over bare legs. If you wear tights in my presence without permission (rarely granted) I will cane you."

The result is that the onus upon what to wear rests with her, but ensures that I do get my "greater turn on" from time to time without having her feel "oh no not again".

Funny though, from time to time she wears tights and grins like a Cheshire Cat as she says "Sorry, I forgot"

Edited for bad spelling and Grammar

Jones 1st Rule: Every action or inaction (conscious or subconscious)has an irrevocable and resultant consequence, determined by the Master and accepted by the slave.
Jones 2nd Rule: A slave is for life, not just for Christmas.
Jones Observation: Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars, kes is from Pluto

Edited 17 Apr 09, 1:13 PM by Mr_Jones_Again

17 Apr 09, 4:26 PM
linden284
UK, 5 yrs
star_phoenix wrote:
Do any other women feel this way? I want to be me, not just me packaged in male fantasy underwear, not all the time.

I know exactly how you feel... although my issues weren't clothing related I have gone along with things to please someone I love very much, whilst feeling like something inside is dying because I knew it wasn't right for me.

Your Master probably has no idea of how deeply you feel about it though, so talk to him, however hard it may be. He loves you for who you are, and that includes your thoughts and opinions, so share them with him.

Perhaps you can find a compromise you're both happy with. I don't like dressing up all the time either - i've had this week off work so I've been in jeans and a t-shirt and loved it, but I've enjoyed wearing pretty lingerie underneath as I know Covenant likes it when I do. For work I dress professionally and tell him what I'm wearing - so I get to choose what I know is appropriate and what I feel comfortable in for the workplace, but at the same time he can influence it. In fact he has chosen some of my clothes so I'm selecting from things I know he likes.

For clubs, perhaps you could suggest that you surprise him by wearing something of your choice which makes you stand out from the crowd - he might enjoy the surprise and the experience will be better for you both if you're more comfortable with your appearance.

lx

I found just what I wanted but I got so much more ~ Love walked in through my door

Edited 17 Apr 09, 10:42 PM by linden284

17 Apr 09, 4:29 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Janus_x wrote:

Yes, it's a cliche almost as much as the too-tight leather trousers and leather waistcoat are for men isn't it.

Hey, what about the guys who like wearing stockings?

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?

17 Apr 09, 4:36 PM
janusxuk
UK(HP), 7 yrs

Jahc99 wrote:
Janus_x wrote:

Yes, it's a cliche almost as much as the too-tight leather trousers and leather waistcoat are for men isn't it.

Hey, what about the guys who like wearing stockings?

Well, they should get along to Club XT (Sorry OP, but I am one of the hosts)

Desperately in need of something perverse and witty to put in this space - where is Stephen Fry when you need him?

17 Apr 09, 4:39 PM
Snowpard
4 yrs
Mr_Jones_Again wrote:
*snip* The result is that the onus upon what to wear rests with her, but ensures that I do get my "greater turn on" from time to time without having her feel "oh no not again". *snip*

That is pretty much how it works for us, and I feel it works beautifully. To start with I wasn't premitted to wear trousers, but I just couldn't cope with it anymore.

After lots of talking we finally decided that I could just wear what I wanted -- but when I do wear a skirt or dress etc, I make extra effort with whats underneath to compensate.

I feel alot happier for this and although I can see he doesn't always approve, the look on his face when I wear 'surprises' under my skirts is priceless.

To the OP: All I can suggest is talk to him. I wouldn't share this thread with him though, if you think that would work better than go for it, but personally I don't think he'd like to be 'the last to know', so to speak.

Just try and voice everything in your OP to him and discuss it.

If for any reason you get stuck after that, you could always come back here to see if you can find out what to do next.

Threads are like skirts. They should be long enough to cover the interesting details, but short enough to keep things interesting. :-*

17 Apr 09, 5:02 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Janus_x wrote:
Jahc99 wrote:
Janus_x wrote:

Yes, it's a cliche almost as much as the too-tight leather trousers and leather waistcoat are for men isn't it.

Hey, what about the guys who like wearing stockings?

Well, they should get along to Club XT (Sorry OP, but I am one of the hosts)

Not my kinda thing, but good luck with that, hope it goes well.

Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?

17 Apr 09, 5:16 PM
gigglewiggle
UK(DA), 4 yrs

star_phoenix wrote:
<Snip>

Do any other women feel this way? I want to be me, not just me packaged in male fantasy underwear, not all the time.

star x

What if you asked permission to surprise him? Maybe he enjoys seeing you dressed like that because it is what he enjoys seeing you wear. However, if you respectfully show him that you want to surprise him, you may find he will be more open to this than your other approach? Some Dominants may enjoy that the look isn't what you like. i mean, most are sadistic, you know? *grins* i think it's almost a prerequisite.

i can say that i don't actually share your view. For me, i have always been able to communicate how i feel about the way i'm dressed. i love to be dressed by my Dominant and have yet to find an issue with their choices. i love feeling sexy and dressed to please my owner.

i don't think it's a bad thing that you don't enjoy the way he dresses you, but i do hope that you are communicating with him. Communication is so important. If that fails, then small issues like this will only get bigger. i wish you well.

Submission is a journey best not taken alone.

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