22 Apr 09, 1:09 PM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
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mmmm, that's sexy.
"To all submissives and bottoms, I ask the following questions:
Do you ever protest when your Dom/me asks you to do something either in a play situation or out of it?"
Sometimes although it's probably token resistance. Usually not though.
"Have you been punished for refusing to do something? If so, were you more obedient the next time you received the same commant?"
Yes, and yes. That's how it works. I don't like to be difficult for the sake of it in order to get a punishment I want though. I feel a lot happier when I'm compliant and too much complaint can spoil a relationship.
"Are you more reluctant and unwilling in humiliation scenes?"
No, not at all. That's sexy.
"Do you dislike yourself for not being completely obedient at all times? Or is it completely acceptable to you because submission does not equal being a doormat?"
I don't dislike myself because I think it takes a long time to get to be completely submissive to someone and because no one is perfect in the real world. Nor do I think it would be being a doormat to do whatever is asked right away
I think it's lovely to be in that position, not a door mat. I wouldn't want someone who let me get away with disobeying him on the other hand.
coryman666 wrote:
When my girl is to be corrected she pleads with her eyes and she pleads vocally. When she is being corrected she pleads even more and tries to convince me of her contrition. It is utterly pointless and she knows it, because I am the best judge of what is best for her and I see that she gets it.
If I tell her to do something she may comply or she may not, but if I reach for the stick she will usually comply. If she digs in, it requires that I explain and convince her that I am right to make the demand and once she is convinced I am right, she is convinced in turn that she must be corrected for her resistance.
When she is to be corrected, I may tell her to bend over. At the first or second stroke she may stand and clutch. Some might consider this disobedient, but all this means to me is I can watch her struggling with herself to contain the pain and then steel herself to bend over once more to take the rest of her punishment. If she takes it all in one go she is a good girl, if she spins it out she is a silly girl.
She never knows how many strokes she is getting, so if her behaviour angers me she will probably get more than if she behaved herself, but that quantity will not likely be known since I always punish to my satisfaction and not hers - though the two generally - happily - coincide.
I do not ask her to do unreasonable things, or degrading things, though I do demand difficult things, giving her little tasks to see that she is concentrating and applying herself properly. These tasks are designed to show her what she can acheive, instead of running her self estime into the ground. Ther are also rules.
I would hate to have a doormat who jumped immediately to do my bidding. I like a girl with spirit so I can temporarily tame her, by giving her lasting, tender reminders of just how strict I can be. I also like to see this spirited, intelligent and beautiful girl meekly complying when she is to be punished.
I suppose I am rather a complicated individual. I am good for her though.
Coryman
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22 Apr 09, 4:15 PM
mini_velvet
UK(EH), 6 yrs
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valerierose wrote:
That sounded a tad harsh on someone who has not been on this site for very long. i thought this was supposed to be a welcoming site to all and especially a source of encouragement for newbies.
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In theory, yes. In reality, no. No colours or shapes
No sound in my head
I forget who I am
Making love is the same as fucking but you slow down and don't call her disgusting names.
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22 Apr 09, 4:45 PM
Bubbles_2
UK(E), 6 yrs
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I am generally very obedient, but if i'm told to do something really humiliating i will try to drag my feet... Club Subversion
Crossing the Rubicon
FleursduMal
bobette's MySpace
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22 Apr 09, 4:52 PM
mini_velvet
UK(EH), 6 yrs
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Bubbles_2 wrote:
I am generally very obedient, but if i'm told to do something really humiliating i will try to drag my feet...
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I'm very obedient. I think the heel dragging surrounding humiliation scenes is part of it, if I was instantly happy to do something deeply humiliating it would defeat the point of it. It's the blushed cheeks, furtive eyes, lip biting, heart pounding anxiety all betrayed by a wet cunt that I adore. And the sense of satisfaction and pride afterwards as well as knowing how much I've pleased them by overcoming my fear and humiliation. Yumness ahoy. No colours or shapes
No sound in my head
I forget who I am
Making love is the same as fucking but you slow down and don't call her disgusting names.
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22 Apr 09, 4:54 PM
Bubbles_2
UK(E), 6 yrs
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velvet_minx wrote:
Bubbles_2 wrote:
I am generally very obedient, but if i'm told to do something really humiliating i will try to drag my feet...
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I'm very obedient. I think the heel dragging surrounding humiliation scenes is part of it, if I was instantly happy to do something deeply humiliating it would defeat the point of it. It's the blushed cheeks, furtive eyes, lip biting, heart pounding anxiety all betrayed by a wet cunt that I adore. And the sense of satisfaction and pride afterwards as well as knowing how much I've pleased them by overcoming my fear and humiliation. Yumness ahoy.
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Yes, such an exquisite pleasure of awfulness.. Club Subversion
Crossing the Rubicon
FleursduMal
bobette's MySpace
Beginners Guide to BDSM[/ur
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22 Apr 09, 4:57 PM
mini_velvet
UK(EH), 6 yrs
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Bubbles_2 wrote:
Yes, such an exquisite pleasure of awfulness..
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I like that description  No colours or shapes
No sound in my head
I forget who I am
Making love is the same as fucking but you slow down and don't call her disgusting names.
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23 Apr 09, 12:57 AM
SinPar
US, 12 yrs
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Goldilocks wrote:
Do you mind if your submissive partner protests against commands, refuses to do something straight away and is reluctant and unwilling to obey orders? |
I mind a great deal. I don't give any direction that I don't expect to see done. I don't do busywork for the sake of keeping submissives or slaves busy. There is always something to be done. I expect them to look for the next thing to do, just like I have to. They're there to be real and practical assistance most of the time. My staff are expected to work just as hard as I do at maintaining some order in my life.
Goldilocks wrote:
Do you always except immediate obedience in all things? |
I expect sensible obedience, but I expect that everything I ask for gets done. If I have a timeline in mind I do give that as a direction as well. However, I'm always open to new information that has bearing on what I've asked to be done. If I say go do something and her nails are wet- I can wait unless it is an emergency.
Goldilocks wrote:
Alternately, are you fine with your sub protesting as long as the eventually do as they're told? |
No. If you can't be obedient without polluting the process with your bitching about it then you're obviously with the wrong dominant.
Goldilocks wrote:
Can it make a scene more hot and arousing if your play partner/sub really makes a fuss about it (crying for example) before finally submitting? |
Absolutely not. See above.
Goldilocks wrote:
Does it make their 'submission' even more delightful if they're not willing to do it first of all? |
Oh yes indeed. When someone reaches down inside themselves and finds the will or courage to do something that I know they really don't want to do or are afraid to do just because I asked it of them-- how can not be honored that they'd do that for me? I don't ever ask for anything that I think would cause lasting harm as even things that have been hard limits can often be framed to look like a logical next step. If it's ever been a hard limit, though, they do have to ask for it. People who leave my service usually do so with fewer hard limits than they came with.
Goldilocks wrote:
Or does protesting not count as submission? |
I understand reluctance and even hesitation for something you're afraid of. If I ever ask it- it's only because we both know that the submissive is ready for it.
Goldilocks wrote:
Do you enjoy it when a submissive/bottom complains, protests and is reluctant within a humiliation scene? What type of humiliation scene creates that reaction most, do you find? |
I don't like humiliation scenes much beyond the blush and squirm variety of gentle teasing so I very rarely engage in those.
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The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis)
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23 Apr 09, 7:21 PM
othyim
NL, 3 yrs |
Q: Do you ever protest when your Dom/me asks you to do something either in a play situation or out of it?
A: Nope, not in a play situation. That would be totally besides the point. I might hesitate for a moment though, but he always gives me enough time to cope and adjust...
Out of a play situation I might ask for a postponement though, mostly due to the fact that he simply doesnt know bout things that happened irl yet, or cause I need to prioritize? His bidding though...
Q: Are your limits ever gently pushed much to your reluctance?
A: I fear I'm not that reluctant. Maybe for it seldom feels like pushing.
Q: Have you been punished for refusing to do something? If so, were you more obedient the next time you received the same commant?
A: I hardly ever refuse to do something, and if I do I usually have a véry valid reason for it and am allowed to tell him that.
He knows its my intention to obey.
Furthermore, we are not into any sort of punishment dynamics. We dont need any excuses or detours for him to be as sadistic as he wants to be.
Q: Is there anything in particular that makes you protest more often than usual when asked to do it?
A: Nope.
Q: Are you more reluctant and unwilling in humiliation scenes?
A: Not into humilitation dynamics as well. It either doesnt feel like humiliation, or I retreat and can not be reached.
Q: Do you dislike yourself for not being completely obedient at all times? Or is it completely acceptable to you because submission does not equal being a doormat?
A: Quite the contary; my obediance (um... pro active, intelligent, conscious and intentional obediance, certainly nothing like being a doormat) turns him on.
I obey to the intentions of the rules, not by the letter of the rules. Thus I'm not always "completely" obediant, but actually sometimes a step ahead.
And last but not least, without my (expected and unexpected) obediance, how could he be as dominant and controlling as I like him to be?
Edited 23 Apr 09, 7:25 PM by othyim
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