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Do you ever break rules on purpose ? (62)

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24 Feb 09, 12:43 AM
Phrixus
UK(ST), 5 yrs
Love the quote. :)

MissP wrote:
"Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools."

Douglas Bader

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24 Feb 09, 8:17 PM
Sirs_Froglet
UK(S), 3 yrs

I have a condition I shall call inherent cheekiness... I find it really hard *not* to be playfully cheeky, mainly because I'm naturally a little sarcastic and also because I'm still finding my feet as a submissive and I guess it's part of my 'internal battle'. I'm just lucky to have a very understanding and patient Dominant ;)
24 Feb 09, 11:20 PM
SirDreadly
UK(CF), 5 yrs

slutling_angel wrote:
When I do things on purpose.

Himself knows immediately.

His reaction is a non-reaction. *sigh* ;-)

All ends up a waste of time BUT it's fun trying as inside I am giggling my head off :-D

You should know better by now. Nothing is ever ignored, just sidelined until I'm ready. ;)

M.

Enjoyer of Niche Pleasures.

24 Feb 09, 11:50 PM
iamafls
6 yrs
At first, definitely.

But now I'm more focussed on being good, as I was only cheating myself really, wasn't I?

25 Feb 09, 7:02 AM
Sarah1974
UK(RM), 3 yrs

CarrieLove wrote:
I have a condition I shall call inherent cheekiness... I find it really hard *not* to be playfully cheeky, mainly because I'm naturally a little sarcastic and also because I'm still finding my feet as a submissive and I guess it's part of my 'internal battle'. I'm just lucky to have a very understanding and patient Dominant ;)

...I know that's something I will need to work on too :-)

25 Feb 09, 7:45 AM
Ms_Valentine
UK, 9 yrs
hiddentreasures wrote:
Do you ever break rules on purpose ?

To those submissives amongst us, do you ever break the rules or do something that could be considered, dare i say, 'naughty', just to bring about a punishment?

Is this brattish behaviour? Is it enjoyed by the Dom/Domme ?

Do the Dom/me's amongst us feel that this is taking away their control...and perhaps avoid these baiting sessions...?

Goodness, I think you know what a lot of Dom/mes will say in answer to your questions. *grins*

I think it will depend upon the kind of relationship you have as different expectations might apply in a casual, part time or bedroom D/s relationship than might in a 24/7 D/s situation.

In my relationship I would not approve of any deliberately being naughty to get a 'punishment' as the dynamic we have going doesn't work like that.In my opinion, playing up to get punishment is a form of bratting and seeing as I detest brattishness, it would always be counter productive.

It is a form of baiting designed to provoke a response, hopefully a stereotypically punishing one and so enables the brat/sub to get what they want at the expense of the Dom/me. If you are used to dealing with brats, I suppose you wouldn't feel pissed off by that kind of behaviour but with me it would make me internally angry, and I would question my subs entire understanding of our relationship.

One thing it would not do is provoke me to punish in the presumably semi-pleasant way the sub had in mind, a spanking, or flogging etc. If a sub did that to me, I would march them down to the playroom (a big building at the bottom of my garden), remove their clothing, neglect to put the heating up to quite the high enough temperature so a little discomfort were inevitable, attach leather hand muffs to both hands and padlock them by the wrist to the frame so there was no way of escaping, put the i-pod on to play their least favourite kind of music and then secure the door and go back into the house to carry on with whatever I was doing. They would be left in the playroom for several hours. I never normally do that kind of thing as I know how nasty being dismissed from your Dom/mes presence is. I would expect that experience would cure them of their desire to top from the bottom. If it didn't then that would probably be the beginning of the end. If I had been happy to deal with childishness in my life, I would have had children!

In my relationship, I expect and encourage my sub to speak to me and ask if he has any requests. I will always listen, although what the decision is will be mine alone and I would expect him to abide by it. After all, 24/7 D/s is about him sacrificing his desires and will and sublimating them to mine.

So, that is my long answer to a short question.

Controversial views of Ms_Valentine. No 1. Slaves submit no more deeply than subs can do. No 2. Terms such as a 'sub' or a 'slave' describe a state of being, not a level of submission, importance or place in a hierarchy. 3. Submission?.. no limits necessary.

25 Feb 09, 7:59 AM
slutling_angel
4 yrs
SirDreadly wrote:
slutling_angel wrote:
When I do things on purpose.

Himself knows immediately.

His reaction is a non-reaction. *sigh* ;-)

All ends up a waste of time BUT it's fun trying as inside I am giggling my head off :-D

You should know better by now. Nothing is ever ignored, just sidelined until I'm ready. ;)

M.

:-p :-p

If, Rock be the fruit of love. Then be prepared for a good rogering!!!! :-D

25 Feb 09, 8:03 AM
feetintrouble_jemima
UK(EN), 4 yrs

When I break rules, knowing that there may be consequences, I find any feelings quite intense, and usually I get physical sensations at the moment of breaking the rule. In the vanilla world, I do many things by the book, and if I do break a rule, even if I know it's for the best, I feel dreadful. I don't even like crossing the road at the red man. (Those of us who drive may know about that moment of terror if you realise you've just committed some traffic violation, and then two weeks of anxiety while you wonder if the postie will bring something nasty from the authorities. I must add that because of my job, I don't break traffic rules very often!)

When I first got a satnav, I would even feel a frisson if I disobeyed its instructions, even if I knew that my way was better. If somebody human was giving the instruction, they would then sigh, and the atmosphere would start to decline.

In the kink world, I feel huge excitement from breaking a rule, deliberately or otherwise, and if I do then get beaten, the resulting adrenalin rush is much greater, than if I was being beaten simply by asking for it. It still takes me a certain willpower to break a rule: I'm going to a school roleplaying event soon, and have to buy my clothes. It will take me some determination to go with just one item of incorrect uniform, I will just have to think how happy I will be as I walk up to receive the resulting caning.

Because I normally obey most rules, bratting has a certain excitement for me: the act of being naughty sometimes gives me an even greater thrill than the punishment itself. However, I have learned that many tops don't like it, and won't reward it, so I feel I have to be selective about who I do it with.

I must be gooder
I must be gooder
I must be gooder

Edited 25 Feb 09, 8:07 AM by feetintrouble_jemima

25 Feb 09, 9:12 AM
MRDaws
UK(SE), 5 yrs

Adalie wrote:
I wouldn't break or bend rules. I might suggest I was going to/ask what would happen if on a not important rule or do something that I hadn't been told not to do but could be considered naughty in my eyes, just to check that the boundaries are still there, kind of reassurance, but not seriously. Don't do it too often though. *wonders if is too dull and obedient* It is an attention seeking behaviour though and usually I get my attention needs met - I'd be a lot worse if I didn't.

Ill remember that ;)

im not selfish but its about me... Me.... ME!!!

25 Feb 09, 9:41 AM
LibidinousQuean
4 yrs
No I wouldn't, if i want a caning i'll ask him nicely for one. It's the worst thing in the whole entire world ever if i have annoyed him, it makes me feel sick.

The impression of keen whips i wear as rubies...

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