9 Feb 09, 3:35 PM
MistressGI
UK(BH), 6 yrs
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to totally trust your play partner.
to let go and enter your private space.
to be doing the thing that hits all the right buttons for you, its not just a case of being beaten so the endorphins kick in, you could be having a bondage session, and because that floats your boat, the feel of the rope and the intensity of the session will set you off Lifes a Bitch....Isn't it fun
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9 Feb 09, 3:45 PM
Tanos
UK(M), 14 yrs
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psychokitten wrote:
is this a real thing that i've yet to experience, and maybe never will? i've had some really intense play, to the point where i was bloody from head to toe, but still never experienced anything of the sort.
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Subspace is a highly focussed, trancelike state, in which the sub's attention is all on the dominant - kind of like a mental version of tunnel vision.
People can get endorphin highs from SM (and sex in some cases) but that's a different thing, and they have a chemical basis. (They should be bottom-space rather than subspace, if you want a BDSM name for them.)
Some people can experience both together.
Regards,
Tanos
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Edited 9 Feb 09, 3:47 PM by Tanos
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9 Feb 09, 3:48 PM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 7 yrs
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Tanos wrote:
psychokitten wrote:
is this a real thing that i've yet to experience, and maybe never will? i've had some really intense play, to the point where i was bloody from head to toe, but still never experienced anything of the sort.
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Subspace is a highly focussed, trancelike state, in which the sub's attention is all on the dominant - kind of like a mental version of tunnel vision.
People can get endorphin highs from SM (and sex in some cases) but that's a different thing, and it has a chemical basis. (It should be bottom-space rather than subspace, if you want a BDSM name for it.)
Some people can experience both together.
Regards,
Tanos
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This is most definitely my experience of it. It's where the submissive gets to a state where nothing exists apart from the Dominant and there is a feeling of time standing still. It's very powerful.
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9 Feb 09, 3:51 PM
little_belle
UK(E), 4 yrs
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psychokitten wrote:
little_kitty_belle wrote:
.... Yes, it's real, the feelings are based on chemical reactions in the brain in response to the external stimuli ...
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so it's an endorphine rush? so, technically you could enter subspace from getting a tattoo?
i r teh dumb
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Yeah kinda...You're not dumb, I think the confusion arises due to the fact that people use the term 'subspace' to describe several things...including what Tanos was saying might be better termed 'bottom-space.' In my mind, it's all the same thing, but can be triggered by different events. So some people go into subspace from pain, some from restriction, some from humiliation, feeling utterly submissive and concentrated on your partner.
I believe it's all related to endorphins...
Wikipedia wrote:
Endorphins are endogenous opioid polypeptide compounds. They are produced by the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus in vertebrates during strenuous exercise, excitement, pain, and orgasm |
... but those endorphins can be triggered due to a range of things, and the exact effect will depend on those things, and your mental state at the time.
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ETA: Yes, I got a bit floaty when I had my last tattoo done. Edited 9 Feb 09, 3:53 PM by little_belle
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9 Feb 09, 4:03 PM
Tanos
UK(M), 14 yrs
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little_kitty_belle wrote:
I think the confusion arises due to the fact that people use the term 'subspace' to describe several things...including what Tanos was saying might be better termed 'bottom-space.' In my mind, it's all the same thing, but can be triggered by different events. So some people go into subspace from pain, some from restriction, some from humiliation, feeling utterly submissive and concentrated on your partner.
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With you so far 
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I believe it's all related to endorphins...
Wikipedia wrote:
Endorphins are endogenous opioid polypeptide compounds. They are produced by the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus in vertebrates during strenuous exercise, excitement, pain, and orgasm |
... but those endorphins can be triggered due to a range of things, and the exact effect will depend on those things, and your mental state at the time.
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I doubt endorphins are the fundamental cause of subspace: I've put a sub into subspace at a munch just by talking and maintaining solid eye-contact. We'd done this a few times out and about, and lots of times in private. Four of us started talking about sub-space at the end of a munch, so I tried a demonstration. She didn't respond to what the other two said to her or remember what they'd said later, and afterwards she reported it all as being identical to her previous experiences of subspace.
Regards,
Tanos
www.tanos.org.uk
www.bridgewood.org.uk
www.twitter.com/ukTanos
Edited 9 Feb 09, 4:04 PM by Tanos
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9 Feb 09, 4:11 PM
little_belle
UK(E), 4 yrs
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Tanos wrote:
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I believe it's all related to endorphins...
Wikipedia wrote:
Endorphins are endogenous opioid polypeptide compounds. They are produced by the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus in vertebrates during strenuous exercise, excitement, pain, and orgasm |
... but those endorphins can be triggered due to a range of things, and the exact effect will depend on those things, and your mental state at the time.
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I doubt endorphins are the fundamental cause of subspace: I've put a sub into subspace at a munch just by talking and maintaining solid eye-contact. We'd done this a few times out and about, and lots of times in private. Four of us started talking about sub-space at the end of a munch, so I tried a demonstration. She didn't respond to what the other two said to her or remember what they'd said later, and afterwards she reported it all as being identical to her previous experiences of subspace.
Regards,
Tanos
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My point was, with that quote, that you don't need physical contact to create those endorphins.. So your story doesn't necessarily disprove my argument... If mental excitment, tension etc. were created from a simple conversation, I see no reason why endorphins might not have been released and thus had an effect on mental state....see what I'm getting at?
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