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| 3 Feb 09, 3:47 PM Mr_Toast UK(TN), 6 yrs   |
Alternatively: Had she carved a false name, would she have gotten away with it? The drunken consent issue will never be resolved. As I understand, signing any contract whilst intoxicated invalidates it (to stop unscrupulous dealers getting people drunk to seal transactions), but you're responsible if you get in a car & drive. Plainly both practises are wrong, and I'm inclined to side with the law on both, but when you start getting into consensual assault you can understand why the law gets a little grey. If we can't agree on it here, what chance does an "outsider" have? Without more details than the articles divulge, it's impossible to comment constructively (though everyone's opinions are fascinating and often valid). On drunken consent to sex... that's just a nightmare. grey as a grey thing in a grainy black & white photograph. Personal inclination is treat it as a crimeless victim, as opposed to a victimless crime - the victim may have effectively been raped, but that doesn't make the other partner a rapist. Wow, that argument could run & run... | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:15 PM Fridayschild 3 yrs |
Pmsl The trouble with some women is that they get all excited about nothing and then they marry him. | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:18 PM Fridayschild 3 yrs |
In the girls favor, i have to say that carving your name into someones arm must be timely a process and surely it would hurt a bit? I know if i didn't want it done i wouldn't sit there happy off my head whilst someone was doing it. I mean he must have been sat very still so, i can see both sides to the argument really. The trouble with some women is that they get all excited about nothing and then they marry him. | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:25 PM rabbot 12 yrs |
You can be breathalysed if you are about to step into a car but I've never heard of it before signing a contract. What actually constitutes being intoxicated? I once bought a laptop after a few drinks but doubt the contract would be invalid, it was a good purchase anyway. There are always going to be arguments over what constitutes 'being intoxicated'.
'taste the whip, in love not given lightly, taste the whip now bleed for me' Velvet Underground | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:25 PM Mr_Toast UK(TN), 6 yrs |
Hmm, good point - how much would the intoxication have numbed the pain? Although, it would have been incredibly bloody even if it didn't hurt much, so he would have plainly seen it was severe (probably would have looked significantly more dramatic than it actually was, from what procedural photos I've seen of similar scars, and compounded by the alcohol's vasodilating effects). On the other hand, if he actually was passed out like he said, it needn't necessarily have been enough to wake him. | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:28 PM Mr_Toast UK(TN), 6 yrs |
"What actually constitutes being intoxicated?" Precisely... breathalysing usually occurs significantly *after* you've gotten in the car. As regards the contract issue, you'd have to contest it yourself and make the argument that nobody of sound mind would have entered into the agreement. I'm thinking as much of old folk doped up in hospital beds signing away inheritances as I am of more white-collared individuals glossing over decimal points with the aid of a few malts. | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 4:29 PM Mr_Toast UK(TN), 6 yrs |
(oh, in the case of wills, obviously you can't contest it yourself... in that case, whoever felt they should have inherited in place of the fellow with the morphine! Next of kin, and the like.) edit: sorry for the multiple posts - crossed timings, & only just noticed the handy "edit" feature. D'oh. Edited 3 Feb 09, 4:52 PM by Mr_Toast | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 5:31 PM MistressLuzie UK(CA), 5 yrs £ |
De you clearly have got too much time on your hands lol to research all online newspapers for different takes on the same story very interesting read and you can clearly see which newspapers work together and have the same sources.. interesting as I said Life is for living and websites are for annoying people www.mistress-luzie.co.uk | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 5:40 PM syndeetoo UK(WC), 6 yrs |
You don't have to drive. Sitting in the car with the keys is enough. Yes, that is a real wire brush. | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 7:21 PM Eomer_Of_Rohan 5 yrs |
No, it's not "Just as women who wear mini skirts shouldn't complain if they get raped" it's a comment on putting yourself unnecessarily at risk not what is morally right or wrong. Is a "Domme Duck" a Dullard? "Honesty is the most offensive thing in the world." |
