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| 2 Feb 09, 3:39 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
I can't call it humiliation either - we tend to use as a means of just messing about and being very silly. BDSM should be fun and some of our cross dressing nights have been hysterically funny. But I do understand that it is a much more serious thing for other folks, and mean no disrestect. Having said that, May putting up pics from one of those silly nights does make me squirm rather! Especially as they are currently higher rated than me trying to look all butch and domly like, buggrit! Not fair! Curses, spits, whinge. I want my money back!! Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you? | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 3:39 PM immiscibility UK(N), 6 yrs |
Heh - I feel exactly the same! The next best thing to wearing pretty things yourself is dressing someone else up in them... especially if it involves heels and corsets Also, far too many boys look better in them than me, and it's only fair I punish them for looking for being so pretty *grin* | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 3:47 PM serious_karma UK(N), 5 yrs |
A role-adoption facilitated by the clothes but is in no way intrinsically submissive. Gender-change games, and feminising, are a demonstrative way to edit a man's personality but this can equally be done by a Dom becoming a Domme. Why is the CD sissy more visable than the CD Domminatrix? Are they more numerous or is there some other factor?
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| 2 Feb 09, 3:51 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
I don't know, but I do have a longstanding bet with a few peeps on here that I can do some doming in girly togs. Haven't quite managed to summons up the bottle yet, but maybe soon...... Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you? | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 3:53 PM Lady_Lucan UK(L), 4 yrs |
A great question, and one I ponder frequently. Here are some musings of mine on the subject from a recent memo: I've taken a little while to think over your memo before I replied, because I'd never really had the opportunity to thoroughly formulate how I think about some of these issues before.
A lot of women in my peer group regard me as a bit of a joke because I am so uninterested in the clothes they favour, and I make a lot of self-deprecating comments about my 'lesbian shoes' and the like. Indeed, it was a vague dream of mine to open a shop called 'lesbian shoes' when I lived in Brighton, specialising in comfy, practical and stylish footwear. Problem is, it would probably *only* have been patronised by lesbians
The irony now is that, unknown to such women, I get paid to sit wearing very un-lesbian shoes while clients worship my feet. And this despite a bad car accident a few years ago that has left my right leg buckled and my foot misshapen. But I digress I have always loved clothes and am keenly interested in design and fashion. What I am most definitely not interested in is being a stock size, wearing clothes deemed appropriate to my gender (and hence allowing someone else to construct a sizeable portion of my sexuality), or wearing anything that makes me feel remotely uncomfortable, physically or mentally.
Naturally all of these stipulations drive me rapidly towards 'defeminised' or male clothing. I adore winter clothing, Celtic clothing, old fashioned fabrics, thick socks, big boots, caps, chunky knitwear, that sort of thing.
In the summer I favour suits, tailoring, linens and drapey clothing - more rather than less. I particularly like men's trousers, hosiery, and accessories - they are always far better made than women's. I like posing in Oxford bags and braces and a monocle - Bloomsbury Group type nonsense
As I've discussed recently on the boards, for some reason my skin just goes with tweed, tartan and plaid. My dream, if I ever came into big money, would be to stride into the Vivienne Westwood shop in Liverpool and have them measure me for a tweed Sixties style catsuit, in size 18L, complete with leather elbow patches! Tories really do make better suits, it has to be said So in answer to your question, I suppose my crossdressing is more a crossover of *values* than actual garments. I am always struck by how much *more*, generally, people seem to be wearing in photographs dating from my childhood and earlier, and definitely think clothing is more arousing when it conceals and suggests, rather than reveals. I'd rather go naked than wear ill-fitting slutty clothes. The current Primark/Jane Norman/Karen Millen hierarchy leaves me very cold indeed, and I wonder who is served by it. I have found much love, eroticism and worship in the world by steadfastly looking like me.
It's just like the Sixties. Except there's less hope. | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 4:21 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
Real girls can't reach the ceiling.... I put a new suspension point up, right there. Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you? | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 4:28 PM rita_green UK(LL), 6 yrs |
Clothes are important.We should all feel comfortable in whatever we are wearing. apart from physical comfort we should feel mentally comfortable. sometimes the two have to be compromised. If some one wants to look feminine its necessary to wear clothes that maybe are not as comfortable. Shoes are a fine example. Sometimes the feminine look is approriate for a look or to bring out certain characteristics ina person. For me i am much more helpful and compliant when cross dressed. I enjoy feeling feminine and that makes me work harder, luv rita xxx | ||
| 2 Feb 09, 5:02 PM northern_light UK, 7 yrs |
Ive done forced cross dressing on boys for humiliation purposes and Ive done it on others simply because I know they will look good, even though some of them may not agree. I get huge pleasure from choosing their outfits and making sure everything down to the last accessory looks good and make sure I pay them plenty of compliments. Reminding them to sit, walk and drink correctly is fun too as is the fact that many of them automatically take on more feminine actions and poise. I love the chastity now that it flows between us. It is like fresh water and rain. How can men want wearisomely to philander." "I love chastity now, because it is the peace that comes of fucking." DH Lawrence from Lady Chatterley's Lover | ||
| 3 Feb 09, 12:40 PM undercover_hippie UK, 3 yrs |
I couldn't agree more, I find the whole concept of 'forced fem' hard to reconcile. It seems to generate eroticism from forcing the sub to transgress their perception of masculinity by dressing/behaving in a feminine way, but fundamentally rests on the friction between the subs perceptions of these two roles. Personally I don't see anything shameful in blurring gender roles, and any dom who attempts to convince me is more likely to find themselves bogged down in a philosophical discussion than any sort of play. | ||
| 4 Feb 09, 12:11 PM ThedaVamp UK, 6 yrs |
Sounds fun. Please check your irony levels before attempting to respond to the majority of my posts. |