BDSM (4)

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Fri 28 Nov 08, 12:29 PM
alandra
UK(BH), 6 yrs

Master and i were talking and we were trying to decide when the term BDSM first came into use. Who put the letters together? when? and why?

to those that understand, no explaination is needed, to those that dont understand, no explaination is possible

28 Nov 08, 12:32 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs

As far as I know it was imported from the US in the mid 90s.

I don't like it, as far as I'm concerned SM is a perfectly good enough term, and I'm very happy with that.

Burns Night, Saturday 31st January, The Master Gunner, Finsbury Square

Edited 28 Nov 08, 12:33 PM by Ishmael

28 Nov 08, 12:36 PM
Backdooruk
UK(BA), 12 yrs

It was on the newsgroup alt.sex.bondage somewhere in the late 1980's.

- Chris

Anyone with a brain is manipulable. Only the truly unimaginative are difficult to control.

Edited 28 Nov 08, 12:58 PM by Backdooruk

28 Nov 08, 12:39 PM
deviantmind
UK(CB), 6 yrs

But does just simply SM portray the domination and submission aspect? Surely you can be a sadist or a masochist with out that dominance/submission.

ETA: Depending on your definition of SM I suppose it could:

sadomasochism vs sub/master/mistress

Life moves pretty fast, if you don't sit back once in a while you may miss it.
Everybody dies but not everyone truely lives

Edited 28 Nov 08, 12:41 PM by deviantmind

28 Nov 08, 12:53 PM
Tanos

UK(M), 14 yrs

alandra wrote:
Master and i were talking and we were trying to decide when the term BDSM first came into use. Who put the letters together? when? and why?

Almost certainly on alt.sex.bondage and before the Google Groups archive of it that starts in 1991. The other candidate origin (Variations on Compuserve) has been denied by its moderator, Glora Brame, who believes someone from alt.sex.bondage introduced it there too.

There is a folk etymology in "Screw the Roses" that suggests it was done to avoid continual misunderstandings / disagreements about what is included in B&D, D/s, and SM. At the time, there were people who used B&D or even D/s to mean the whole of what we now call BDSM. An umbrella term means you can just say "BDSM" and not have to worry that the reader uses the same definitions.

And it has been extremely successful as a term: it's even now getting into the government's guidance notes about new laws.

Regards,

Tanos