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Kinkdom's Pony Club (40)

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13 Nov 08, 8:59 AM
Penny_Louise
5 yrs
Gypsygirl wrote:
When i first read this post, i thought great. a pony event in the north west... excellent... but having read all of your criteria.. i find myself dis-heartened.

The reason being... It seems to be all running to a fantasy.. And as pony play is a bit of a niche in the fet scene, i cant understand why you have placed such strict criteria over it, pony and rider. Surely it would have been better to become stricter in the rules once the club had become established and peoples interest and commitment are there to attend regularly.

I know a few ponies like myself, who have owners, and you dont seem to cater for those who are in this position... it seems to be aimed at single people... or thats the impression you give..

as for all of your criteria.. well... I cant stand for long periods of time.. i am slightly disabled... i have a harness but also like to dress under it especially in the colder weather (usually a zentai suit), there are times when i cant place my hands behind my back.. some ponies prefer having their hands in front of them in latex hooves.

And... perfection to whose standard??? What are your experiences of pony play....

As for the option of having spectators/fans... mmm and they get charged less... whilst they perve at the entertainment... (if they even understand the dynamics of pony play!!!).. not keen on the thought of wanky men perving over scantily clad female ponies... and you are leaving yourself wide open to this, sorry...

However i commend you on the fact you are actually trying to create this niche in the north west.. It would be nice to have a bit of the pony scene oooop north.

This is NOT aimed at singles only but I was keen to demonstrate that singles were welcome: I will review the wording.

Spectators would reduce the costs to players, but if this is wanted, it can be removed from the proposal.

Lady Alpha

Pro-domme, switch and sub. Disciplinary and conventional therapy and life coaching Kinkdom

Edited 16 Nov 08, 9:55 AM by Penny_Louise

14 Nov 08, 5:51 PM
Lady_Katt
5 yrs
Following on from the above I have to support Ladys Alphas comments but also understand where Gypsy Girl is coming from. I think how this new club is going to be organised and run is of high importance, not just for its success but for the members safety, fun and to also offer something to learn too.

Many pony clubs become that 'fantasy' role that is spoken of and what Kinkdom will hopefully be offering is something different in that they will not be following the norm of pony play, but making it something with their own turn on it. Whilst still adapting to those who are experienced- both singles and coupled alike, but also being able to take on board interested parties and those who can be taught to excel to a high level and also cater to those who just want to trot around a bit! Just because a high level of protocol is demanded it does not been this will not be adapted to those who will be encouraged to play and learn at the level that suits them.

I have to applaud Kinkdom for putting their name to this and I myself and luke will be two of many who will support them in this wholeheartedly.

As to experience in pony play - you cant get better than someone who has been breaking and training ride and drive ponies of the real kind, plus experience from other horse owners, to bring the authenticity into this group. Tie this in with the experience both T and L bring re management of events, and the following they have in help and supporters, Im sure this will be a wonderful new venture which will rise above any doubts.

As to whether arms should be tied behind backs or not - again this is how many other pony clubs do this and is not the only way to work as a pony. I think Lady Alpha was just generating interest by creating a written scenario as to how the mindset works more than limiting the way to work as a pony. Im sure as many ponies are going to be trained the 'Kinkdom Way' smiles- that any issues and concerns will be welcomed and dealt with to cater to all abilities.

Anyway Im not here to gabble on - heres wishing Kinkdom all the best - and if you want to see how it is going to be done in real life rather than written here.. which is a lot easier to sort im sure :) why not support Kinkdom by joining up and seeing what they can offer.

We will be there ..

Hugs Lady Katt n luke x

'Windwalker' - is the wind beneath My wings x

Edited 14 Nov 08, 5:56 PM by Lady_Katt

14 Nov 08, 6:09 PM
Windwalker
4 yrs
Hmm. Well my main concern is whether I'm going to be 'Glittermane' or 'Chastity Blue'; or maybe 'Windwalker' would do.....Or maybe 'Lady's Pony'.....

Luke, Windwalker; owned by Mistress Katt.
'There is no way to peace and happiness; peace and happiness is the way' The Buddha.

14 Nov 08, 6:27 PM
Penny_Louise
5 yrs
So far we have been offered, collectively, 4 people with experience of both 'real' and human pony play, several people who have broken and trained horses and a few people with equine connections. We have been offered sulkies, made for us.

Keep the feedback coming as far as the format goes.

Lady Alpha

Pro-domme, switch and sub. Disciplinary and conventional therapy and life coaching Kinkdom

Edited 16 Nov 08, 9:54 AM by Penny_Louise

16 Nov 08, 4:25 PM
lis0rp
UK(YO), 3 yrs
I'm sure the budding pony of the household will be thrilled at the prospect of something happening close to home! It'll give her the opportunity to show her Christmas present off! I just hope Mistress doesn't try and rope me in! :S

The only issues I can see is that comitting on a regular basis could be difficult - the employers of most of the household do have a habit of whisking some of us away over seas at a moments notice on a regular basis. Also, our equipment for such play is only in the early stages o procurement - oh to be made of money!

On a slight tangent, does anyone know of any appropriate leatherworking workshops held in the locality? I'd certainly be interested in making my own tack, but most of what I've learned so far has been from the Internet or worked out from fIrst principles. It would certanly lower the barrier to entry to this particular field of play.

Edited 16 Nov 08, 4:26 PM by lis0rp

16 Nov 08, 4:55 PM
Penny_Louise
5 yrs
lis0rp wrote:
I'm sure the budding pony of the household will be thrilled at the prospect of something happening close to home! It'll give her the opportunity to show her Christmas present off! I just hope Mistress doesn't try and rope me in! :S

The only issues I can see is that comitting on a regular basis could be difficult - the employers of most of the household do have a habit of whisking some of us away over seas at a moments notice on a regular basis. Also, our equipment for such play is only in the early stages o procurement - oh to be made of money!

On a slight tangent, does anyone know of any appropriate leatherworking workshops held in the locality? I'd certainly be interested in making my own tack, but most of what I've learned so far has been from the Internet or worked out from fIrst principles. It would certanly lower the barrier to entry to this particular field of play.

I'm looking for commitment as far as possible, because I'm going to be hiring a large venue for a very small number of people, so a few deciding not to bother one weekend would be disastrous. Having removed the spectators and their funding from the project by popular demand, it really is borderline on viability.

Leather working is something I need to catch up on quickly myself anyway. I want to make sure that there is sufficient kit for everyone to be able to have a go every time, and hopefully, I've already got a couple of sulkies sorted out.

So, anything I find out I'll share, and if anyone else knows how to get started on some strap work, please get in touch :)

Lady Alpha

Pro-domme, switch and sub. Disciplinary and conventional therapy and life coaching Kinkdom

16 Nov 08, 5:39 PM
Dimswitch3
UK, 6 yrs
LadyAlpha wrote:

On a slight tangent, does anyone know of any appropriate leatherworking workshops held in the locality?

what about good old cathouse?

18 Nov 08, 2:53 PM
Cyberspice
UK, 4 yrs
LadyAlpha wrote:
I'm looking for commitment as far as possible, because I'm going to be hiring a large venue for a very small number of people, so a few deciding not to bother one weekend would be disastrous. Having removed the spectators and their funding from the project by popular demand, it really is borderline on viability.

I am the nascent pony lis0rp is talking about.

If its financial worries that are the problem how about making it an annual fee or something. That way you guarantee the income stream.

I belly dance too and use the gym. In both cases I pay whether or not I attend (because work has meant I'm on a plane to Silicon Valley or where ever).

If its commitment in terms of time and training then I understand the problem.

19 Nov 08, 7:02 PM
sirguym
UK(HR), 6 yrs
LadyAlpha wrote:
I'm looking for commitment as far as possible, because I'm going to be hiring a large venue for a very small number of people, so a few deciding not to bother one weekend would be disastrous. Having removed the spectators and their funding from the project by popular demand, it really is borderline on viability.

Leather working is something I need to catch up on quickly myself anyway. I want to make sure that there is sufficient kit for everyone to be able to have a go every time, and hopefully, I've already got a couple of sulkies sorted out.

So, anything I find out I'll share, and if anyone else knows how to get started on some strap work, please get in touch :)

Lady Alpha

I don't know of any human-pony event in the UK that has done better than covered its direct costs. Many have lost monies for the organisers. That has been true of my events, those at De Ferre Pony Farm, West Wales and in Kent - though at least in Kent the bar generate some profit for the land-owner, even if not for the pony-organisers.

I think there is scope for inviting spectators, but only if there is a strict dress code for them. Nobody likes 'performing' for wanky men, that's mostly why dress codes have evolved in our clubs.

If you can attract lots of e.g. ladies and cross-dressers 'dressed for Ascot', with smartly dressed male (and/or other partners), it will add to the atmosphere and the wankers will slink away.

I'd suggest some form of tote or betting scheme to entertain the spectators, maybe using some 'play money' given on arrival, proceeds to charity.

Plus small prizes for the best-dressed lady, man, couple, etc ...

Maybe even having a VIP enclosure where those who would appreciate maid service drinks and nibbles, for a premium price or contribution in kind, could go down well.

As for pricing, I'd suggest the same price per head, whether pony, driver or spectator.

With a chance to get premium treatment by either paying more or paying the standard amount and helping out, or a discount by helping out. (Such help could be in marketing, running a related workshop, loaning gear, maiding, etc.), You may also be able to add another income stream by running a race or two 'for the camera', with only those willing to appear on camera taking place, or being in shot as spectators for those races.

Or a photographer paying you as organisers for the privilege of taking photos of participants: but only in a quiet corner where only those involved will be in shot.

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19 Nov 08, 10:30 PM
Penny_Louise
5 yrs
sirguym wrote:
I think there is scope for inviting spectators, but only if there is a strict dress code for them. Nobody likes 'performing' for wanky men, that's mostly why dress codes have evolved in our clubs.

If you can attract lots of e.g. ladies and cross-dressers 'dressed for Ascot', with smartly dressed male (and/or other partners), it will add to the atmosphere and the wankers will slink away.

My spectator proposal was in these terms, 'dressed for the races' was the phrase I used.

Given such mixed feedback, it would seem best at this stage to sit back a little, let a few ponies run between demos at Kinkdom events and see where the energy lies.

Lady Alpha

Pro-domme, switch and sub. Disciplinary and conventional therapy and life coaching Kinkdom

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