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| 1 Nov 08, 6:50 PM SuzannaRaine UK(NG), 4 yrs   |
"it could crawl away!" And boy golly the snake thing.... Time for a cold shower :P bara 'adam 'et 'elohim m'apher | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 6:53 PM foibey UK(M), 7 yrs |
Most play happens outside of clubs, and (especially where things like body modification, scarification, etc are concerned for instance) what constitutes "damage" can be incredibly subjective. moo | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 6:58 PM SuzannaRaine UK(NG), 4 yrs |
That's totally up to you/them. That one person has a limit doesn't mean another must share it. That one person has limits at all, doesn't mean everyone must. bara 'adam 'et 'elohim m'apher | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 7:00 PM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
If you love someone, are married to them and very submissive to them I doubt you really need a great long list of dos and don't that you agree; but hopefully you pick someone who you can trust not to damage you. | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 7:04 PM foibey UK(M), 7 yrs |
My main point is that you can't at the same time maintain that you have no limits and simultaneously that some things are just unreasonable or unrealistic. The latter *constitute* limits, implicitly. Playing without safewords with people you trust to know you well enough to not go beyond your personal limits of reasonable play without you having to explicitly state them isn't the same as playing without any limits. It's just that the limits are implicit and unspoken. moo Edited 1 Nov 08, 7:06 PM by foibey | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 7:12 PM SuzannaRaine UK(NG), 4 yrs |
things which can not properly be consented to my dying permanent damage i.e. broken bones, missing fingers The thing is, the first two of those just aren't included in BDSM, where you need to be able to extablish informed consent. As far as the third one goes, I'll be happy to have a hard limit, assuming that "you're not to break my leg" needs stating in a pre-play discussion.
bara 'adam 'et 'elohim m'apher | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 8:04 PM jstripes  UK(KT), 7 yrs |
I have a Mistress with whom I have what comes pretty close to a No Limits relationship. For me, as a concept it is great. It means that I am submitting completely to Her will. I handing over all power and responsibility to Her ... TPE, I guess. That's a great turn-on for me. For me to have any say in what happens spoils it in that it means that I am holding something back. However, as others have pointed out in reality of course there are some places that I wouldn't want to go. The important point here is that I know the Mistress concerned and trust Her not to take me to those places ... at least I think that I do ... She can be a bit scary when She wants to be.
I don't agree with that. In our case the 'no limits' is genuine. What makes it work is that I know what Her requirements and predilections are and, while they are quite rightly challenging, they are compatible with my own and I am comfortable with them. Therefore 'no limits' works for us.
Yes, I think this is the key. It is 'no limits' because I pass over responsibility to Her, but not 'no limits' in an absolute sense.
Yes, this is vital. I'm not sure about 'very very well', but certainly well enough to have confidence that I can hand over my complete submission in this way. This is not to say that I would expect to have to know everything about my Mistress, nor that I might not be surprised sometimes about what She might do. Part of the the whole thing is that there will be some uncertainty about what is in store for me, what She might choose to inflict. It shouldn't be predictable and She must have the freedom to do what She wants. Otherwise it simply isn't a true 'no limits' submission to Her will.
No, absolutely not. That would defeat the whole concept of 'no limits'. No Limits means accepting everything that She chooses to inflict, however agonising that may be.
Yes.
Yes. The element of danger, of being pushed beyond what I can comfortably handle, perhaps even way beyond it. That is both terrifying and exciting. | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 9:18 PM slave_aureus UK(SS), 4 yrs |
I am trained to no limits but one has to FIND the One that can take such a slave on and TRUST is the paramount first requirement.
unfortunately my training in the non consensual arena lef me traumatised to the point if there is no danger I am not alive and hell bent on living as trained because what happened was so extreme that doctors could not undo wht was done and such I remain a bullwhip recipient slave in search of Male or Master which is my Standing order 1. Failure to do so requires another standing order to end the life of said slave as its dishonourable for such a slave to live alone os beforeparterc out one r unwanted. Those that now the story of slave aureus will now this to be true. But for thoseon the SSC lifestyle no liits can have side effects or consiquences and all needs to chec out ones play partners before commencing into no limits play. slave aureus down in plymouth having 8 labia piercings repierced asfter the last was ripped out during an attac 2006 my regards to Master delight <smiles> | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 9:22 PM mini_velvet UK(EH), 6 yrs |
Everyone has limits. No colours or shapes | |||||||
| 1 Nov 08, 9:49 PM Masters_Delight UK(WD), 4 yrs |
Tomato ketchup tasting kisses are a hard limit for me.x Im so fucking fabulous, i piss glitter. |
