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advice on canes? (49)

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8 Oct 08, 12:05 PM
HisHoliness
UK(KT), 6 yrs
Lady_Lucan wrote:
Funny. You're on my 'Come the Glorious Day' list. About half way down.

Oh bugger!

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8 Oct 08, 12:26 PM
LadyPandoraCP
UK(M), 6 yrs
£
I never advocate the use of garden bamboo canes as they are completely rigid, they split easily in a way differing to rattan, where the skin can be pinched. Not only that, there is something in bamboo (please don't ask me what as I can't remember) that can cause infections.

Decent canes are very reasonably priced, considering the use one can get from them. I have a teardrop malacca that is almost 100 years old and was used by a schoolteacher. A lot of my other canes last several years which, considering they can be used every day and quite severely, makes them an excellent investment.

I never soak my canes are they are a living plant. The water is absorbed to a certain point and then sits there, rotting from the inside. I know some people like to soak them to weight the tip, but I don't see the point in this ... you won't get even stripes if the end is heavier! I would just use a heavier cane.

I never oil them or do anything to them and they are kept in a room with central heating. At the end of the day, a cane is basically a lump of wood. If using it on a person, care must obviously be taken.

It's always best to try a cane before buying it but if that is not possible, David at Quality Control and Phil at Coventry Canes both know their stuff and are very helpful. Their merchandise is second to none.

Regards, Lady P

Some people are like slinkies ... they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs :-D
Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.

8 Oct 08, 6:23 PM
latexloverman
UK(N), 6 yrs
quietsoul wrote:
SuperWhore wrote:
My advice on canes?

If you see one coming at you, try and run away. Or negotiate.

Am with you ..or ban them. Bonfire night aint to far off. ;)

edited to add.. There is no such thing as a 'good cane'

lol yeah, burn em all

8 Oct 08, 9:32 PM
subjayBelfast
UK(BT), 3 yrs
LadyPandoraCP wrote:
I never advocate the use of garden bamboo canes as they are completely rigid, they split easily in a way differing to rattan, where the skin can be pinched. Not only that, there is something in bamboo (please don't ask me what as I can't remember) that can cause infections.

Decent canes are very reasonably priced, considering the use one can get from them. I have a teardrop malacca that is almost 100 years old and was used by a schoolteacher. A lot of my other canes last several years which, considering they can be used every day and quite severely, makes them an excellent investment.

I never soak my canes are they are a living plant. The water is absorbed to a certain point and then sits there, rotting from the inside. I know some people like to soak them to weight the tip, but I don't see the point in this ... you won't get even stripes if the end is heavier! I would just use a heavier cane.

I never oil them or do anything to them and they are kept in a room with central heating. At the end of the day, a cane is basically a lump of wood. If using it on a person, care must obviously be taken.

It's always best to try a cane before buying it but if that is not possible, David at Quality Control and Phil at Coventry Canes both know their stuff and are very helpful. Their merchandise is second to none.

Regards, Lady P

Thank you for sharing your knowledge LadyPandora, i for one have certainly gained a lot from your advice.

Thanks and regards

8 Oct 08, 9:46 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
LadyPandoraCP wrote:

I never soak my canes are they are a living plant. The water is absorbed to a certain point and then sits there, rotting from the inside.

Advice varies on that, and I don't know the actual answer. I have been advised to periodically soak my hitting sticks, so I do.

It does appear some do get brittle if not soaked time to time, my favourite one kinda shattered and was very dry indeed inside. But my limited experience is that you have to soak for a long time, over night at least, so it goes in all the way. Otherwise it seems you get a brittle bit left in there which will go ping, not good. The other thing is to then let them dry for a good while or they are too heavy for their strength and being all boingy will break unless left hung up for long enough.

So, I dunno, anyone got the definitive on this?

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8 Oct 08, 10:01 PM
Lady_Susan
UK, 5 yrs
I find that the perspiration from an apprehensive slave keeps my Kooboo nursery cane nicely seasoned!

I know you don't like it - you're not supposed to like it.

9 Oct 08, 12:35 AM
Master_Chopper
UK, 6 yrs
Backdooruk wrote:
Master_Chopper wrote:
First of all. Bamboo is hollow and the outer skin is very hard. This is the plants defence and strength. Problem for us using bamboo is that it is brittle and can leave some very nasty cuts if it breaks on impact. Best leave bamboo for the gardeners.

While I generally agree that it's much better to opt for a Rattan cane, it think the danger of using bamboo tends to be somewhat exaggerated. First of all it takes quite hard or sustained use to break the types of bamboo cane commonly found in (for example) garden centers. There it little risk if all someone intends to do is administer a quick beating with something they got out of their garden that is to hand.

Secondly, I don't think the actual injuries sustained are likely to be more than a the odd cut from a single impact. It's certainly not the same as having razor blades attached to a cane as was suggested earlier. The biggest risk I'd guess is a splinter flying in someone's eye.

Thirdly Rattan cane can split and injure as well. I've had both Dragon and Kooboo canes split after 'vigorous use' and they have drawn blood (though not a lot and no more than I sometimes like to draw even without them splitting), so Ratton is not risk free.

The main reason I'd recommend not using bamboo is that it doesn't feel as good, not for its relative dangers.

- Chris

You know, sometimes it is a waste of time trying to help people by sharing years of knowledge, accumulated by hands on experience.

Just for the benefit of those not paying any attention. Bamboo is harvested and sold in garden centres to prop up plants. It is NOT examined or checked for any faults, cracks, splits. It is cut, stored in a conatiner and shipped across the world. Then it is sold to the end user.

Bamboo carries many faults that you cannot see. It has very little flex so on impact it has a leverage point where it is most likely to break. Bamboo rarely breaks cleanly. As Lady P mentioned when bamboo breaks it can and often does pinch the skin. The outer skin of bamboo is very thin and can slash skin deeply.

I wonder how many sales assistants at the garden centre actually examine each cane they supply. Test its flexibility, sand every joint, apply real beeswax polish and make sure all the sharp edges have been removed. I mean thats just the thing you would do before you prop up the beans and sweet peas.

You go ahead and be a cheap skate that thinks he knows better than some very experienced caners and someone that supplies dozens of canes every month all across the world, with a great many repeat customers.

Me? I'll just stick to what I know. Making top quality canes with the best materials I can find at a very competitive price. I also take great pride in ensuring that the tools I use on any lady that I play with, are the best I can produce, safe and I know how to use them. I actually like, respect and care about my play partners.

Master Chopper.

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9 Oct 08, 12:36 AM
bluenblonde
AU, 4 yrs
Caracal wrote:
Those who know me know that I don't use cheap toys, I use good toys and that does not mean expensive. My canes all come from Master Chopper because he knows his stuff. I have been to his workshop and have had the great pleasure to have been his demo bunny, that was long after I was a full paying customer of his and was generated by my faith in what he knows and does. Canes are not expensive and the risk that you run by using inferior material on a sub is incalculable. Go for the best you can afford, look after them and they will repay you time and time again.

I would second this- Master Chopper is a caning expert and really knows his stuff. He puts a lot of time into making his kit and the quality really reflects this. I've also visited his workshop and seeing the amount of equipment and supplies there is amazing- great guy who is passionate about what he does and the quality of his tools reflect this.

“I'm no angel, but I've spread my wings a bit.” Mae West

9 Oct 08, 1:04 AM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
subjayBelfast wrote:
Thank you for sharing your knowledge LadyPandora, i for one have certainly gained a lot from your advice. Thanks and regards

Me too, thanks to Lady P for a personal email too when I asked her some questions to buy canes for cleints to hit me with without hurting me too much! Fantastic advice thank-you so much to take the trouble.

And also to Master Chopper who's given so much good advice above, I've learnt so much just by reading this thread!

9 Oct 08, 9:19 AM
LadyPandoraCP
UK(M), 6 yrs
£
Jahc99 wrote:
LadyPandoraCP wrote:

I never soak my canes are they are a living plant. The water is absorbed to a certain point and then sits there, rotting from the inside.

Advice varies on that, and I don't know the actual answer. I have been advised to periodically soak my hitting sticks, so I do.

It does appear some do get brittle if not soaked time to time, my favourite one kinda shattered and was very dry indeed inside. But my limited experience is that you have to soak for a long time, over night at least, so it goes in all the way. Otherwise it seems you get a brittle bit left in there which will go ping, not good. The other thing is to then let them dry for a good while or they are too heavy for their strength and being all boingy will break unless left hung up for long enough.

So, I dunno, anyone got the definitive on this?

I think it's a matter of personal preference :)

Some people are like slinkies ... they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs :-D
Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.

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