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Revenge and D/s.relationships (52)

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10 Sep 08, 7:57 PM
serene_firefly
UK(SK), 5 yrs

FetishJess wrote:
When someone really, really fucks me off, I just ignore them. I just can't be bothered to get revenge. People generally aren't worth it. To piss me off to the ignoring stage takes some doing.

I ignore them for a different reason. I have a really BAD temper and if I don't control it, I might actually hit them. I ignore them not because I can see they aren't worth it, but to control my temper.

Also, I admit I am going to get great pleasure in taking revenge on my housemate for bailing on our movie night plans tonight by watching Lost in Austen, which he despises cause he HATES Austen.

AS to the OP's comment:

Jonssub wrote:
A male Dom I know says that if someone is your Master they have the right to do as they please. I disagree, after all even D/s relationships are negotiated at their concept and if the Top promise monogamy or no play unless you are present or anything else for that matter etc they have to keep their promise. After all it's all about trust.

If my Master/Mistress did as s/he pleased and that pleasing meant s/he slept with someone else in a supposed monogamous relationship with me... well they'd be shown the door faster than I could open it for them!

There would be no words –
they didn't need them…
Once, she would have… words failed and broke her.
She would have let him lead her, once.
Still the storm raged and howled, still it rained on her new dawn…

10 Sep 08, 10:05 PM
kinky_kitty
UK(LE), 5 yrs
The best revenge is to be happy and live your life and do all the things you've ever wanted to.

People who can blatantly hurt others in such a flippant way will pay the price eventually.

I've plotted in my head a million ways I can exact revenge on people who've wronged me but never gone through with it because I don't want to inflict those consequences upon myself. I think that everyone thinks about taking revenge, it just takes a certain kinda balls to actually carry it out!

Like someone else said, you can act however you like as long as you're prepared to take the consequences!

tigger X

10 Sep 08, 10:10 PM
slutling_angel
4 yrs
Over a break up I found myself smiling sweetly when the ex turned up or was around at certain places. Although I was hurt for the way the break up occurred.

Must say it is difficult to do. But I have found that smile sweetly grit my teeth keep my head up and wish him all the best was the mature thing to do. Does not stop the hurt but better than showing anger, hurt and stuff in public.

Get your rocks off on Planet Rock ;-)

10 Sep 08, 10:24 PM
Mistress_Hypatia
UK, 5 yrs
Regarding D/s relationships - like any relationship, it's based on trust. And if someone lies to you, how can you trust them? And if they will lie to you about one thing, they are very likely to lie to you about something (or anything, or everything) else.

Regarding revenge... personally, I prefer the thought of pursuing justice, rather than revenge.

'Everyone' says that liars never prosper, that the truth will out, and you get what you give (sometimes threefold, or even tenfold). I hope it's true. Unfortunately, I don't believe in some kind of cosmic justice that makes sure people get what they deserve - but I do believe it's very hard to maintain a lie.

Niccolo Machiavelli knew that. A prince who gains his throne by force will have to use force to keep it... someone who gains their position by lying will have to continue to lie to keep that position.

Politicians find this out all the time - a small lie becomes a bigger lie, and then it becomes a huge, complex, web of lies - and suddenly it all comes crashing down.

Far more satisfying than petty revenge (which is apparently a dish best eaten cold) is to watch someone's own actions take them towards inevitable disaster. You can sit back and know that you didn't have to lift a finger - they cut their own throat.

--A lady is never offensive... by accident.--
--Matthew 7:16--

10 Sep 08, 10:28 PM
The_Quiet_One
4 yrs
Mistress_Hypatia wrote:
Regarding D/s relationships - like any relationship, it's based on trust. And if someone lies to you, how can you trust them? And if they will lie to you about one thing, they are very likely to lie to you about something (or anything, or everything) else.

Regarding revenge... personally, I prefer the thought of pursuing justice, rather than revenge.

'Everyone' says that liars never prosper, that the truth will out, and you get what you give (sometimes threefold, or even tenfold). I hope it's true. Unfortunately, I don't believe in some kind of cosmic justice that makes sure people get what they deserve - but I do believe it's very hard to maintain a lie.

Niccolo Machiavelli knew that. A prince who gains his throne by force will have to use force to keep it... someone who gains their position by lying will have to continue to lie to keep that position.

Politicians find this out all the time - a small lie becomes a bigger lie, and then it becomes a huge, complex, web of lies - and suddenly it all comes crashing down.

Far more satisfying than petty revenge (which is apparently a dish best eaten cold) is to watch someone's own actions take them towards inevitable disaster. You can sit back and know that you didn't have to lift a finger - they cut their own throat.

Very much agree - I'll see your Niccolo Machiavelli and raise you a Friedrich Nietzsche:-

Nietzsche wrote:
"It goes without saying that mercy remains the privilege of the most powerful man."

<starts thinking of real world stuff...>

10 Sep 08, 10:39 PM
Mistress_Hypatia
UK, 5 yrs
The_Quiet_One wrote:
Very much agree - I'll see your Niccolo Machiavelli and raise you a Friedrich Nietzsche:-

Nietzsche wrote:
"It goes without saying that mercy remains the privilege of the most powerful man."

Yes, mercy... It must be granted, and cannot be forced. To show mercy is therefore a display of power, not only a privilege of the powerful.

And it can be seen, from the recipient's end, as a curse - not a gift. Justice balances the scales; revenge pulls the victim down to the offender's own level. But mercy - to show mercy to someone who has acted against you places them in your debt. And this, in itself, may be the most satisfying revenge of all.

--A lady is never offensive... by accident.--
--Matthew 7:16--

10 Sep 08, 11:45 PM
RockosML
3 yrs
Mistress_Hypatia wrote:
Regarding revenge... personally, I prefer the thought of pursuing justice, rather than revenge.

'Everyone' says that liars never prosper, that the truth will out, and you get what you give (sometimes threefold, or even tenfold). I hope it's true. Unfortunately, I don't believe in some kind of cosmic justice that makes sure people get what they deserve - but I do believe it's very hard to maintain a lie.

Is revenge not justice? Cannot revenge be karma in action (for those karmically inclined)? Lex talionis, an eye for an eye etc, has defined justice for thousands of years. Petty revenge can be satisfying to the soul. Or it can corrupt it. I don't advocate revenge myself, and have never indulged in it in serious situations. In petty situations however it can be fun. I had a boss who was taking the piss for quite a while and it was fun to drop them in it occasionally. Nothing major except some sown seeds sprouting to fruition.

I do however believe that liars prosper and the truth only rarely outs. Think about it,how do we recognise a lie; by referencing it to the world and noting the difference. If nobody does that, then it stands as the truth. We only know about lies that get caught out. How many have flown under the radar?

For relationships though, it's a strong personality who is ruled by their minds and reasoned arguments rather than emotion and intuitive responses.

10 Sep 08, 11:56 PM
Evil_Black_Alice
UK, 5 yrs
Jonssub wrote:
So go on spill the beans have you got your own back and HOW?

No, never.

You know why? Anyone who has hurt me, I mean, truly messed me about, has been affected far more by karma than anything I could have done to them.

I have had my revenge by being, ultimately, more happy and satisfied with my life than they could ever hope to be.

And that is the better than any sort of physical vengeance.

:)

Original Alice
Pox ridden sons of circus whores need not apply.... ;)

11 Sep 08, 12:37 AM
The_Quiet_One
4 yrs
<11>

Silence is golden
Least said, soonest mended
The quiet man is here to stay

Edited 14 Oct 08, 11:56 AM by The_Quiet_One

11 Sep 08, 1:22 AM
T5Tart*
UK(MK), 5 yrs

Mistress_Hypatia wrote:
Regarding D/s relationships - like any relationship, it's based on trust. And if someone lies to you, how can you trust them? And if they will lie to you about one thing, they are very likely to lie to you about something (or anything, or everything) else.

Regarding revenge... personally, I prefer the thought of pursuing justice, rather than revenge.

'Everyone' says that liars never prosper, that the truth will out, and you get what you give (sometimes threefold, or even tenfold). I hope it's true. Unfortunately, I don't believe in some kind of cosmic justice that makes sure people get what they deserve - but I do believe it's very hard to maintain a lie.

Niccolo Machiavelli knew that. A prince who gains his throne by force will have to use force to keep it... someone who gains their position by lying will have to continue to lie to keep that position.

Politicians find this out all the time - a small lie becomes a bigger lie, and then it becomes a huge, complex, web of lies - and suddenly it all comes crashing down.

Far more satisfying than petty revenge (which is apparently a dish best eaten cold) is to watch someone's own actions take them towards inevitable disaster. You can sit back and know that you didn't have to lift a finger - they cut their own throat.

sorry to be pedantic but ....

'cheats never prosper' not liars and 'revenge is a dish best served cold' not eaten lol

I was actually going to use that last quote myself far better to wait untill you are just a distant memory then wham hit them from left field if that way inclined

"One day you'll ask me whats more important to me.. "me or your life?" Then you'll walk away not knowing that you are my life..."

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