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11 Sep 08, 7:57 PM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs


IndelibleMarker wrote:
Sirebel wrote:
Damn spell checker, didn't see the 'g' in there. I'm not talking about a communist state either, just one with functioning socio economic groups.

I'm not disagreeing with you in the slightest, we need to review and revise our approach to morals and attitudes as a society.

Not playing the age card again but you're not the first one to think about this. We tried a number of community living arrangements at your age too. Of course, as attitudes have changed, you have a much better chance of making it succeed than we did. Good luck.

I know I'm not the first or the last to think about it. The generations that follow me are also far more likely to succeed than I am because (hopefully) liberal attitudes towards these freedoms will develop.

I'm really not trying to encourage or even speculate on the idea of a "community" based around polyamory though. I just want to explain to those who often ask how difficult yet rewarding polyamory is in comparison to monoamory, for me, in the modern world which still maintains the traditional values imposed on us by the churches of old.

I'm assuming, by what you've said, that you tried polyamory at 'my age' and found that peoples attitudes were not yet ready for it? But if you tried it you must have liked or at least agreed with the concept of it? As you say; people are now far more open minded, so why don't you have another go? I don't see why age is a barrier to this one...

I think we've got our wires slightly crossed here. I wasn't suggesting you thought you were the first to think of these things (or the last). I've read enough of your posts to know you appear very level headed about most things. It is your attitudes to these things that will lead the next generation to have even more liberal views on them.

You used polyamoury to challenge traditional values and all I was trying to say with my post was "don't stop there". Challenge anything you don't feel is right (although I would stay away from pork in the desert without decent refrigeration ;)). I can safely say, because I am in no way attracted to my siblings or relations, that there is nothing wrong with incest for pleasure (provided that there is no intent to breed and taking on board the non-abuse of family relationships / consenting adults etc).

Polyamoury is a good way to start an extended family environment. I was just trying to encourage you to think further out of the box. Extend this to cover anyone you think worth including in your group. Pool your resources and beat the capitalist pigs at their own game (sorry, got a little carried away).

I've never made a poly relationship work, mainly may failings I think. However, I recognise that we are all capable of loving and caring for far more people that we normally do and this should be encouraged.

I'll get off my socialist soap box and return to the normal programme. Many thanks for listening.

12 Sep 08, 5:27 PM
Will_and_Echo
UK(SW), 5 yrs

Interesting blog. Not certain about the incest argument, but that is something I feel quite strongly about. Some interesting issues raised here; it's not the same way I view it specifically, but I think it may be along similar lines. But that is to be expected, because (as far as I am aware) both you and The Key and Will and I have similar set ups; male dominant and female submissive as the primary partnership with an extra relationship or two (though not all our girlfriends are exclusively submissive). It is most definitely about the emotional side of the relationship as much as the sexual; it is, as you put it, very much "a wider support structure".

But I do honestly think it is getting more widely accepted. We have booked hotel rooms for us and two of our girlfriends before (in a clearly we-are-all-in-a-relationship manner) without people batting an eyelid. Having said that, this was in London which I presume is *far* more accepting of such things than many other places. We do not live with our girlfriends (one has a primary partner, the others value their solitude) which was actually a carefully chosen decision; there will *always* be disagreements. And the more people you put in a room arguing a point, the greater the impact will be on the relationships. And we are all relatively short tempered too...

Oooh... what was I saying? Lack of sleep is not conducive to decent discussion. But yes, I think that polyamory can work very well in a bdsm relationship structure; especially if there is a heavy emphasis on the D/s side of things. Because the thing that it is useful for people to realise is that the relationships are rarely equal, you will not love someone an equal amount to someone else and thus the structure of the relationship network should be firmly in place prior to adding anyone else.

But this could be a rather useful debate... will attempt to keep up to date with this one.

I have become blood and rose;
Every thorn on me is His will.

13 Sep 08, 3:49 AM
HisHoliness
UK(KT), 6 yrs
Hmmm... fascinating weblog and one which i'll follow closely. I have in the past, been a part of a polyamorous relationship where i was one of two submissive partners to a third.

I've always firmly believed, that whilst these relationships aren't right for everyone, they are becoming increasingly more common, are talked about more openly and accepted more.

I am hoping to get to the Polyday discussion event so might see some of you there.

This communication was brought to you from the desk of the Pontiff Elect, the benchmark by which purity, holiness & normality are measured. Bless you.
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Edited 13 Sep 08, 3:51 AM by HisHoliness

26 Sep 08, 12:38 PM
kinkyclover
UK(NG), 4 yrs

Really great reading I thought, I will definitely use it for reference. :-)

Its not begging....Its saying please very politely :-p

24 Dec 08, 5:10 AM
LovingDom2
3 yrs
What can I say ... this is a disgusting ! ... absolutely ... and utterley... repugnant and abhorrent .... overt show of affectionate appreciation of your writings ...

LD

26 Jun 09, 10:42 PM
WeissesFleisch
UK(SE), 5 yrs
Very late to the party, I know! How's this working out for you?

I'm currently in two full-on relationships, although my partners are not themselves involved with each other (beyond being friends, I guess!), so it's always interesting to read about others' experiences.

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