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2 Dec 2008, 1:06 PM GMT
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IC : Web boards : BDSM Activism : "NoTW rolls out Ex Archbishop in its defense" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
NoTW rolls out Ex Archbishop in its defense (57)
28 Jul 08, 2:46 PM sirguym UK, 3 yrs 
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SuspendedInGaffa wrote:
I ceased to be surprised or bothered by religious leaders' comments ages ago. Far worse than Carey's remarks, to my mind, were the bilious outpourings of the NoTW's columnist Carole Malone. Amongst the little gems of 'wisdom' on offer in her piece were:
Where I come from—and I'm not just talking location here, but mindset—people who indulge in that kind of deviancy would be written off as 'sick in the head', depraved, morally bankrupt.
And where I come from people who think that kind of sex is 'normal' would be offered psychological counselling on the grounds they're on the rocky road to hell.
And where I come from, people who hold those sorts of beliefs would be written off as bigoted, embittered old trolls. "Morally bankrupt"? "Road to Hell"? Check the mirror, darlin'.
Full article:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/2707_malone_mosl...
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I consider that to be clear incitement to hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation: but probably somewhat short of what would actually be criminal.
But it is a widely held view, especially amongst those who have not yet thrown off the shackles that religion tries to put on their imagination - even if they've actually repudiated religion.
An awful lot of parents are still inculcating those attitudes into their kids - which I consider to be abusive of the trust of children. It's bad if they turn out to have the 'acceptable' orientation that society expects: a disaster if they are gay, lesbian, trans or whatever.
Actual physical abuse, of the kiddie-fiddling kind, can be a terrible thing, I've seen all too closely the trauma it can cause.
But the trauma that a teenager goes through after being indoctrinated that way - then discovering for themselves in the loneliness of the teenage years that they're one of 'the evil others' can be as crippling emotionally and psycologically. Academy Incorporated: turning fantasy into reality,
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28 Jul 08, 5:29 PM Dark_Energy UK, 6 mths 
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I had never heard of BDSM before (as a rather young child) reading about it in the NOTW. There was one particular "expose" all about "Pro-Dommes" which went into quite some detail about the apparatus they had in their "dungeons" and the sort of services on offer (this was in the days when the reporters simply "made an excuse and left" rather than planting cameras).
I secretly snipped it out and kept it when the papers when out for the bin-men. So if I am ever called to explain how I became quite so "depraved and corrupt" then I can point a finger at the NOTW. It was several years before I could get my hands on anything more depraved than the NOTW.
As for bashing the bishop, would he like to sign a petition requesting that god abolishes hell? - after all, his ultimate superior does seem to condone a certain amount of cruelty by allowing its continued existence, or is the church's "Top Dom" not quite so nice or powerful as the church likes to think?
Oh and I just checked - guess which profession is responsible for more child abuse than any other? I'll give you a clue, it isn't anything to do with newspapers. Edited 28 Jul 08, 5:32 PM by Dark_Energy
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28 Jul 08, 6:29 PM MrsTopman1 YT, 3 yrs |
Cinnabar wrote:
I was not quoting from Wiki about Carey but from my recollection of his prelateship. OK he was not rabid about gays but he always maintained the orthodox line and resisted the accommodation with the liberal view of Christianity which Rowan Williams is now trying to make. Maybe it is impossible but he is trying.
Carey is not a liberal, he is from the evangelical wing and always struck me as over promoted. This reaction to the judgement did not really surprise me, except that the double standards were even more pronounced than usual.
You would not get Rowan Williams writing a piece like that in a million years.
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Ah, OK. When you wrote "as posted above", I assumed you were referring to posts in this thread.
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